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Post by maccers1 on Nov 11, 2012 0:59:30 GMT
Jesus wept. f**k me these men died for us all. It wasn't about religion then nor should it be now. These men fought for the very rights and democracy that we see abused here everyday. If we can not remember these brave souls who gave all in a respectable way then f**k me. Reading these last few pages is depressing this country will never move on. Comparing the poppy to the Easter Lilly holy good f**k. Today (Sunday) marks the eleventh day of the eleventh month the day all those years ago that the guns fell silent. Today we remember those who made the ultimate sacrifice so we wouldn't have to. If you can't be respectful of that at least be quiet ffs tbh, the issue isn't about ww1. remembrance sunday seems to have moved to a celebration of "our boys" and "our heroes". ww1 & ww2, no problem whatsoever. the issue in this country is a large section of the community suffered at the hands of these same people. the british prime minister has publicly acknowledges and apologised for one of those but the wounds are deep. as has been posted look to future and not to past. i'd wear a white poppy with pride as it's a symbol of peace. these soldiers today i have some sympathy for as they shouldn't be in any danger. they were in these places because their government & american government led them there to fight for not free speech, liberty but purely for greed. their lives are in danger for financial reward and it's not the soldiers fighting who are getting their pockets filled. |
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Post by antrimwhu on Nov 11, 2012 1:05:43 GMT
The Lilly an the poppy mean the same thing to different people respect this an move on no mans beliefs mean more than another's respect all views an live together
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Post by mrfish on Nov 11, 2012 1:28:15 GMT
That may all be true Jeff, but it doesn't mean that people should be forced to do something they don't want to do or do sometning they feel strongly against, because if that was the case, then essentially those that made the ultimate sacrifice for our freedom will have done so in vain!! Personally I would do away with anything that remembers the past, no matter what side you are on, because the past always seems to be the reason for conflict and disagreement in this country and countries around the world. It's about time everyone let the past be the past and look to the future!! Truth be told bfp, and I'm not aiming this at you it's just cuz you replied to my message, there are those who hate everything that is British and can not even tolerate anything that resembles it. Frankly until such times that people can accept that London rules over us there is no hope for this small country to move on. People must accept democracy as until such times as it is the will if the majority here, it ain't changing. That's my last post on the subject because this could be debated all night on here and no good will come of it Dear dear! ;D Didn't agree with me then Mr Angry!  |
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Post by goram on Nov 11, 2012 7:51:31 GMT
Goram ur a w****r everybody else life's to short enjoy it let the bigots fight my money's on shore to stay up unless goram steals more points Cheat again and il b more than happy to protest again . Im totally again cheats; as is 90%of us .in life rules are here for a reason. For a start u dnt even no a thing about me ,u hate me cos i caught yous cheating , surely u think to urself;goram was rite to report us .cos any other team would do so By cheating ur blacking the bsml leagues name ;surely when the bsml council sit in co antrim fa hearings; monte must have sum questions to ans regarding cheats in our leagues . Word of advice :dont cheat |
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Post by BFP on Nov 11, 2012 9:12:36 GMT
Goram, I'm not trying to get involved on this argument between you and shore as I know nothing about it, but how come if you're so against cheats blackening the BSML's name, you didn't come on here and say a word about Homers doing it when they were caught and thrown out of the junior shield? Either condemn all or condemn none.
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Post by goram on Nov 11, 2012 9:28:45 GMT
Goram, I'm not trying to get involved on this argument between you and shore as I know nothing about it, but how come if you're so against cheats blackening the BSML's name, you didn't come on here and say a word about Homers doing it when they were caught and thrown out of the junior shield? Either condemn all or condemn none. I only condemn the ones I catch Paul . A few more teams cheated in juniors last year. ;)Problem being , antrimwbu has gave me stick since I caught them cheating,calling me a w****r a few times.i said nothing until he mouthed off,so I have a point to give it back . |
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Post by BFP on Nov 11, 2012 9:36:52 GMT
Ok that's fair enough.
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Post by BFP on Nov 11, 2012 9:53:48 GMT
Although I still reckon you should name and shame the ones that played ringers, if you have to play ringers in it then why the f**k would you enter it in the first place? Not sure what youre winking smiley was for? Are you saying that your team played ringers?
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Post by goram on Nov 11, 2012 10:11:53 GMT
Although I still reckon you should name and shame the ones that played ringers, if you have to play ringers in it then why the f**k would you enter it in the first place? Not sure what youre winking smiley was for? Are you saying that your team played ringers? No point naming them on hear , if they play ringers v us , I report them. In my eyes ,anyone should b able to play in junior comps ,providing they are a current signed player . |
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Post by BFP on Nov 11, 2012 10:27:28 GMT
Yeah but every team that enters the comps agrees to play by the rules of it. If you don't agree with them, then why enter them!!
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Post by davman on Nov 11, 2012 10:29:24 GMT
Thats just about the best post i've seen for a long time - my grandfather was shot at the Somme, but survived and lived until he was 72, what a lot of people just dont know is that the battle was to defend Belguim and Holland, it had nothing initially to do with England some people are just blinded by uneducated bigotry. I respect everyone and whatever they believe in is fine by me so long as they don't try and ram it down my throat. I live in Castlewellan, a nationalist town, I'm a prod and everyone knows it but I get on because i know who my friends are regardless of religion (which i believe is the root of all evil - not money as religious zealots would have you believe) 'Do onto others what you would have them do onto you' thats all you need to know full stop!! Much respect and fantastic post! I'm sure that gentleman had many a tale! There was a great wee man my mother worked with, Sid you call him (God Bless him he's probably dead and gone now...must ask her) but fought in both Wars and worked until he was a very old man. An English fella and a complete gent whose company I really enjoyed. He had some wonderful stories and, like Uncle Albert, loved to share them! The things people like him and your Grandfather witnessed at a very young age is something, thankfully, our generation will never comprehend! Respect to your Grandfather friend! He died when I was only 10 and I remember asking my dad did he have many stories about it but my da just said he would never talk about it, just blanked it out - must have been awful. |
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Post by goram on Nov 11, 2012 10:31:22 GMT
Yeah but every team that enters the comps agrees to play by the rules of it. If you don't agree with them, then why enter them!! There will always b cheating. It's a shame tho |
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Post by philneill2 on Nov 11, 2012 11:17:30 GMT
Yeah but every team that enters the comps agrees to play by the rules of it. If you don't agree with them, then why enter them!! There will always b cheating. It's a shame tho Goarm did you not admit to pele ages ago that you cheated in one of the junior comps, after he picked you up wrong on something? Def can mind reading it! |
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Post by Donko on Nov 11, 2012 14:13:50 GMT
Was James McClean the only player not to wear a poppy in the premier league yesterday?
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Post by mrfish on Nov 11, 2012 14:29:30 GMT
Was James McClean the only player not to wear a poppy in the premier league yesterday? For God's sake don't start them again donko! ;D ;D |
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Post by lennon thru and thru on Nov 11, 2012 14:34:01 GMT
James mclean was within his own rights not to wear the poppy. At the end of the day its his choice and noone elses. Fair play to him for respscting his own beliefs but dont agree with everyone mouthing off about it.
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Post by Donko on Nov 11, 2012 14:42:23 GMT
Maybe after today the press can stop going on about Joe Hart being the best keeper in the world
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Post by pele on Nov 11, 2012 14:52:26 GMT
Maybe after today the press can stop going on about Joe Hart being the best keeper in the world Because he made a mistake? Actually I think he has potential and ability to be one of the best in the world. |
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Post by Donko on Nov 11, 2012 15:10:11 GMT
Maybe after today the press can stop going on about Joe Hart being the best keeper in the world Because he made a mistake? Actually I think he has potential and ability to be one of the best in the world. The press, especially on Talksport say he already is the best in the world. He could eventually be, but he isn't there yet. But because he is English the hype goes into overdrive. |
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Post by mrfish on Nov 11, 2012 15:17:43 GMT
Dzeko again!
What a ball from Silva!
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Post by mrfish on Nov 11, 2012 16:35:58 GMT
How's the Chelsea Liverpool game going?
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Post by goram on Nov 11, 2012 17:06:14 GMT
Maybe after today the press can stop going on about Joe Hart being the best keeper in the world Because he made a mistake? Actually I think he has potential and ability to be one of the best in the world. Il 2nd that .harts the best in the world . Pity Man U never had him |
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Post by Dowie-RAFC on Nov 11, 2012 17:09:21 GMT
1 nil Chelsea fish.
IMO De Gea isn't that far off Joe Hart, both great shot stoppers, both can pick a pass, but both also have a mistake in them.
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Post by Mitty on Nov 11, 2012 17:15:31 GMT
1 nil Chelsea fish. IMO De Gea isn't that far off Joe Hart, both great shot stoppers, both can pick a pass, but both also have a mistake in them. At the minute id say Hart would be a much more solid keeper than de gea, though Hart has 3 or 4 more years experience than de gea. Both are terrific shot stoppers though. |
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Post by Donko on Nov 11, 2012 17:18:18 GMT
Manuel Neuer is the best in the world at the minute, reminds me a lot of Schmeichel
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Post by mrfish on Nov 11, 2012 17:23:09 GMT
1 nil Chelsea fish. IMO De Gea isn't that far off Joe Hart, both great shot stoppers, both can pick a pass, but both also have a mistake in them. Many thanks mate! |
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Post by Cmac on Nov 11, 2012 17:35:35 GMT
1-1 now Suarez for Liverpool
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Post by davman on Nov 11, 2012 21:37:43 GMT
James mclean was within his own rights not to wear the poppy. At the end of the day its his choice and noone elses. Fair play to him for respscting his own beliefs but dont agree with everyone mouthing off about it. Respecting your own beliefs is ok when you have made an informed choice and know what your talking about - I just think in the times we are in he has let himself down by just being a sheep following everyone through a gap in the hedge because he clearly knows nothing about history - sad really |
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Post by BFP on Nov 11, 2012 22:09:42 GMT
James mclean was within his own rights not to wear the poppy. At the end of the day its his choice and noone elses. Fair play to him for respscting his own beliefs but dont agree with everyone mouthing off about it. Respecting your own beliefs is ok when you have made an informed choice and know what your talking about - I just think in the times we are in he has let himself down by just being a sheep following everyone through a gap in the hedge because he clearly knows nothing about history - sad really Ha ha, pot, kettle and black!! You are following sheep by posting this!! And you most certainly didn't make an informed choice on whether he was right or not. And you don't know what you are talking about. How do you know if he made an informed choice? What do you know about whether he was advised by someone or not? What do you know of his reasons for not wearing it, and how do you know if he knows what he is talking about or not? Jumping on the band wagon of people having a go at him without being in any way informed of his reasons for not wearing it. I will not comment on whether he was right or wrong to not wear one, because I honestly haven't a clue what his reasons for not wearing one was, therefore I'm not qualified to speak on it. What I will say though, those people that fought on the two WW's done so and sacrificed their own lives to allow anyone in Great Britain and Ireland to have their own freedom, both in speech and actions. So for anyone to slate any person for not wearing a poppy or for slating anyone wearing a poppy then that is doing a massive injustice and showing a lack of respect to our glorious dead. Maybe I am totally wrong on this, but I personally think this is right, and I most certainly don't want to offend anyone on either side of the divide!! |
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Post by davman on Nov 12, 2012 9:06:58 GMT
Respecting your own beliefs is ok when you have made an informed choice and know what your talking about - I just think in the times we are in he has let himself down by just being a sheep following everyone through a gap in the hedge because he clearly knows nothing about history - sad really Ha ha, pot, kettle and black!! You are following sheep by posting this!! And you most certainly didn't make an informed choice on whether he was right or not. And you don't know what you are talking about. How do you know if he made an informed choice? What do you know about whether he was advised by someone or not? What do you know of his reasons for not wearing it, and how do you know if he knows what he is talking about or not? Jumping on the band wagon of people having a go at him without being in any way informed of his reasons for not wearing it. I will not comment on whether he was right or wrong to not wear one, because I honestly haven't a clue what his reasons for not wearing one was, therefore I'm not qualified to speak on it. What I will say though, those people that fought on the two WW's done so and sacrificed their own lives to allow anyone in Great Britain and Ireland to have their own freedom, both in speech and actions. So for anyone to slate any person for not wearing a poppy or for slating anyone wearing a poppy then that is doing a massive injustice and showing a lack of respect to our glorious dead. Maybe I am totally wrong on this, but I personally think this is right, and I most certainly don't want to offend anyone on either side of the divide!! Have a wee read through what you've just written! Embarrassing, I suspect his reasons were that he perceives the poppy to be a british symbol which it most certainly isn't Go and have a wee lie down lad - you'll feel better soon |
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