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Post by jonnymcc on Feb 17, 2013 22:32:36 GMT
Can remember several games where Cliftonville fans have been badly behaved. Take the red tinted glasses off How long ago? People move on. I've heard the reputation & in my personal experience from being there I've not saw anything. Great to see Crusaders representatives on the news there expressing their disgust at Willie Frazer gate crashing their football ground. Ultimately it's the Crues who have lost the most through this. This was one prominent incident this season. |
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Post by maccers1 on Feb 17, 2013 22:46:58 GMT
How long ago? People move on. I've heard the reputation & in my personal experience from being there I've not saw anything. Great to see Crusaders representatives on the news there expressing their disgust at Willie Frazer gate crashing their football ground. Ultimately it's the Crues who have lost the most through this. This was one prominent incident this season. You want to share it with the group? |
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Post by jonnymcc on Feb 17, 2013 22:58:18 GMT
This was one prominent incident this season. You want to share it with the group? I'm sure it's been discussed in this thread already. I'd say it's highly likely you know what it is anyway. |
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Post by maccers1 on Feb 17, 2013 23:08:11 GMT
Sorry fella i was never much of a dancer & don't like dancing around subjects. If you've something to say say it, otherwise i'll go back to my fifa.
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Post by jonnymcc on Feb 17, 2013 23:11:18 GMT
Sorry fella i was never much of a dancer & don't like dancing around subjects. If you've something to say say it, otherwise i'll go back to my fifa. That Juan Ghuy has quite a loud voice |
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Post by DavyFTB on Feb 17, 2013 23:14:29 GMT
Did a clifties fan not attack a linfield player last season???
Also what were the reps of both clubs working tirelessly for weeks to sort out???
Btw imo this protest was at the wrong place and at the wrong time but policed poorly.
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Post by jonnymcc on Feb 17, 2013 23:16:22 GMT
Did a clifties fan not attack a linfield player last season??? Also what were the reps of both clubs working tirelessly for weeks to sort out??? Btw imo this protest was at the wrong place and at the wrong time but policed poorly. That was a coleraine player attacked i think Davy. |
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Post by maccers1 on Feb 17, 2013 23:26:47 GMT
Again, I was there that day and was stood right beside all the people who were singing. By the way the songs they sang that day were Aiden McAnespie and Bloody Sunday. Both events involved members of the British Forces murdering catholics. Personally I didn't sing as I'm from Larne & you kept your head down so I never saw much of the troubles but I fully understand why people from North Belfast could not stand and observe a silence for people who caused them so much pain and suffering.
Easter's nearly upon us, do you think on the Saturday before Easter Sunday Linfield fans would observe a silence for those who died across the divide. We both know that answer.
A lot of terrible things happened over the years in this country. The people in that video still bear scars and grudges about it. No doubt the same can be said of people in loyalist areas as the IRA commited many a horrible deed. As a father of three children all I can hope is that they never have to go through the s**t we and others did.
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Post by DavyFTB on Feb 17, 2013 23:35:54 GMT
And the fan that attacked the linfield player???
Maccers your question about easter sunday is like saying we should close all the decent food houses because its chinese new year. China or the republic both different countries which have nothing to do with us.
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Post by Jeff on Feb 17, 2013 23:54:40 GMT
Again, I was there that day and was stood right beside all the people who were singing. By the way the songs they sang that day were Aiden McAnespie and Bloody Sunday. Both events involved members of the British Forces murdering catholics. Personally I didn't sing as I'm from Larne & you kept your head down so I never saw much of the troubles but I fully understand why people from North Belfast could not stand and observe a silence for people who caused them so much pain and suffering. Easter's nearly upon us, do you think on the Saturday before Easter Sunday Linfield fans would observe a silence for those who died across the divide. We both know that answer. A lot of terrible things happened over the years in this country. The people in that video still bear scars and grudges about it. No doubt the same can be said of people in loyalist areas as the IRA commited many a horrible deed. As a father of three children all I can hope is that they never have to go through the s**t we and others did. Firstly goram is correct about people being asked to move their cars four four hours this is an ongoing issue when cliftonville come to solitude. Hence the meetings. There is no such issue when dc come to solitude. It would appear that it was somewhat hijacked by flag protestors some possibly seeking to raise their profile but this was no coincidence it was planned by residents for this day for a reason they have had enough. These leaflets were distributed after the last north Belfast derby. I'm not sure if you will be able to read all that. Your right about one thing though it does seem little to do with crusaders it's to do with local residents protecting their property. Finally your point about Easter is ludicrous why would anyone let alone Linfield fans respect people involved in an illegal uprising by terrorists. Crazy. f**k the crues, f**k chikenvile and f**k the glens Attachments:
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Post by DavyFTB on Feb 18, 2013 0:00:11 GMT
Tbf i reckon quite alot of the linfield players would be up for the easter rememberance.
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Post by maccers1 on Feb 18, 2013 2:13:23 GMT
So can anyone explain to me why despite the fact that Reds fans are videoed by residents, politicians & police why there's no evidence of any of this on camera. Speaking as someone whose been there, when you walk down the riot police have you penned in do i've no idea how anyone can damage property. One arrest in twenty odd years at the derby & it wasn't a reds fan. Also re cars getting attacked. The majority of the cars in that area are Reds fans so are we saying that Reds fans are attacking other Reds fans cars? Think about it ffs.
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Post by maccers1 on Feb 18, 2013 2:14:08 GMT
Jeff just out of interest, on your trips to solitude... You ever got any grief?
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Post by pele on Feb 18, 2013 8:10:33 GMT
Go easy on these boys maccers  |
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Post by Jeff on Feb 18, 2013 10:03:11 GMT
Jeff just out of interest, on your trips to solitude... You ever got any grief? Only in the very early games and that came from residents not people attending the games. But we are bussed in and bussed out I think that's what the residents around seaview want to see happening so there can be a similar level of control over the chickenvile fans. For the record we haven't been involved in any trouble since we returned to solitude yet are still forced onto buses. Maccers you can argue your point about arrests all you want and videos but i travel to games with a north Belfast blue man who lives on the doorstep of seaview and has witnessed the behaviour. Until cliftonville take their head out of the sand and accept that there is an issue with a section of their fans nothing will be sorted out. Il not hold my breath though as deny and deflect is the cliftonville way always has been |
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Post by maccers1 on Feb 18, 2013 10:35:23 GMT
Jeff just out of interest, on your trips to solitude... You ever got any grief? Only in the very early games and that came from residents not people attending the games. But we are bussed in and bussed out I think that's what the residents around seaview want to see happening so there can be a similar level of control over the chickenvile fans. For the record we haven't been involved in any trouble since we returned to solitude yet are still forced onto buses. Maccers you can argue your point about arrests all you want and videos but i travel to games with a north Belfast blue man who lives on the doorstep of seaview and has witnessed the behaviour. Until cliftonville take their head out of the sand and accept that there is an issue with a section of their fans nothing will be sorted out. Il not hold my breath though as deny and deflect is the cliftonville way always has been You know yourself that the buses are nothing to do with Cliftonville & it's PSNI. The voucher bulls**t is your own clubs doing. I'll say what I've seen. Been at numerous games at Solitude this year as well as away games at Crusaders, Linfield, Ballymena, Portadown. There's been no trouble at all apart from the day at Windsor & I think you'd probably agree that the fella done the right thing there. If there's ever been any issues in Skegoniel Avenue I can 100% say that it has not come from that stewarded walk. There's just no way it could happen as the cops & stewards have you completely penned in. Perhaps the answer is that everyone has to make there way via the walk which incidentally the residents were happy with until it was gatecrashed by oppurtunistic ballbags. |
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Post by Jeff on Feb 18, 2013 11:12:07 GMT
The issue is according to residents people not following the stewarded walk as you call it and breaking away from agreed routes as the protest letter I put up states. I don't know what fella your talking about at Windsor but certainly the dirty protest carried out at Windsor wasn't done by one person. The bus thing is a major gripe for a lot if Linfield fans I don't mind it I certainly wouldn't fancy parking my car around solitude. Just wish we could go in on normal supporters busses to agreed points rather than having to sit at ballysillan for an hour every time.
All sets of fans have their issues but cliftonville continually deny and deflect away from their problems. It's easy to blame Saturdays problem on a flag protest but that won't solve the underlying issues.
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Post by pele on Feb 23, 2013 16:56:14 GMT
Ballymena?
Holy f**k!!
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Post by DavyFTB on Feb 23, 2013 17:02:36 GMT
You at the game this week pele |
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Post by pele on Feb 23, 2013 17:46:22 GMT
You at the game this week pele Where you at yours?  |
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Post by Jeff on Feb 23, 2013 18:55:27 GMT
Davy only goes to see the Linfield |
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Post by DavyFTB on Feb 23, 2013 19:55:48 GMT
1st of all jeff has a cheek. He only attends big games. Then this week he is on crying because his club wont give the part time fans tickets for the shamrock rovers game.
Even linfield know their fans are scumbags!!!
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Post by Jeff on Feb 23, 2013 21:26:55 GMT
Ticket sorted for shamrock away kaad don't you worry bout me. Iv been to more Linfield games than you have glentoran fact. You've seen Linfield same amount as youv seen the glens this year |
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Post by Mitty on Mar 4, 2013 9:58:49 GMT
Some crack at the oval these days, gonna lose their steel & son trophy cause one of their players wasn't registered in time.
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Post by Mighty Reds on Mar 4, 2013 10:31:17 GMT
Who was the player Mitty?
I see their Manager, Assistant Manager & 2 Coaches have left the 2nds.
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Post by Mitty on Mar 4, 2013 10:34:36 GMT
Who was the player Mitty? I see their Manager, Assistant Manager & 2 Coaches have left the 2nds. Their keeper Carter Dawson. I'd assume they knew it was coming so thats why they walked. Bad times there and think it's only going to get worse. |
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Post by Donko on Mar 4, 2013 10:41:58 GMT
Turning into a complete farce at Glentoran
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Post by Jeff on Mar 4, 2013 11:20:05 GMT
Spike hill is the assistant coach. From my understanding he felt the player was eligible and walked as he was let down by the club again. They've also lost 7 points. Shambles doesn't n come close. To think Peter and Marty have allegedly earmarked £10m of our tax payers money to go into this calamity club for a new stadium is laughable
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Post by Jeff on Mar 4, 2013 13:49:36 GMT
Big game for the champions tonight last chance of silverware.
If they go to dublin we will follow on..
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Post by DavyFTB on Mar 4, 2013 15:33:08 GMT
Spike hill is the assistant coach. From my understanding he felt the player was eligible and walked as he was let down by the club again. They've also lost 7 points. Shambles doesn't n come close. To think Peter and Marty have allegedly earmarked £10m of our tax payers money to go into this calamity club for a new stadium is laughable Go f**k yourself jeff!!!  |
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