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[pele]

Rab you must really hate Ahoghill Thistle

[etk]

Think Rab is saying that although the card was wrong... the players on the pitch would have been the exact same if it was filled in correctly therefore a fine would have been a sufficient punishment.

[MW6]

May 10, 2011 15:02:03 GMT @pele said:

Rab you must really hate Ahoghill Thistle

Lol!

[Jeff]

Jnr88 why was the punishment on abbeyview so harsh bearing in mimd it was a first offence. Playing a player who is ineligible is playing an ineligible player. It was only in one game yet they lost 12 points.

Not getting at dunloy here but this is the second time (tht I know of) that they have been up in front of the league this season and maybe were last season as well I'm not sure think I remember somethin.

I'm nothin to do wi abbeyview so you can tel me to mind my own business if you want.

[youngster]

May 10, 2011 15:01:18 GMT MW6 said:

What classifies you to be higher league?

Think u have to play for Portglenone mate

[MW6]

Lol. Not bad!!

[youngster]

May 10, 2011 15:05:15 GMT Jeff said:

Jnr88 why was the punishment on abbeyview so harsh bearing in mimd it was a first offence. Playing a player who is ineligible is playing an ineligible player. It was only in one game yet they lost 12 points.

Not getting at dunloy here but this is the second time (tht I know of) that they have been up in front of the league this season and maybe were last season as well I'm not sure think I remember somethin.

I'm nothin to do wi abbeyview so you can tel me to mind my own business if you want.

Hey jeff just out of interest wot 2 times have we been up in front of the league this season and last??

[Supersub14]

May 10, 2011 14:56:45 GMT jnr88 said:

rab do you agree that kevin mcallister was ineligible due to him not being ticked on the match card??

if you do then i cant see how you cant agree that awarding the points to thistle was the correct decision!!

Then surely the other guy was ineligible too as he wasn't higher league and was ticked!! lol

whats the difference?

Dunloy bit hard done by, but i see where the league is coming from. A mistake was made so it has to be punished. Good job nothing was riding on it ;D

[pele]

May 10, 2011 15:05:50 GMT youngster said:

May 10, 2011 15:01:18 GMT MW6 said:

What classifies you to be higher league?

Think u have to play for Portglenone mate

Or Lisnafillian Swifts

[MW6]

Supersub you don't even know who were playin on Friday

[Supersub14]

i thought our season was over

[youngster]

May 10, 2011 15:08:23 GMT Supersub14 said:

May 10, 2011 14:56:45 GMT jnr88 said:

rab do you agree that kevin mcallister was ineligible due to him not being ticked on the match card??

if you do then i cant see how you cant agree that awarding the points to thistle was the correct decision!!

Then surely the other guy was ineligible too as he wasn't higher league and was ticked!! lol

whats the difference?

Dunloy bit hard done by, but i see where the league is coming from. A mistake was made so it has to be punished. Good job nothing was riding on it ;D

Good point,surely ticking the non higher league player as higher was just as bad?? think common sense could of prevailed like someone earlier said the same player would have been on the field..Think we should of been deducted 34 points just to be sure we got done right

[Jeff]

May 10, 2011 15:08:04 GMT youngster said:

May 10, 2011 15:05:15 GMT Jeff said:

Jnr88 why was the punishment on abbeyview so harsh bearing in mimd it was a first offence. Playing a player who is ineligible is playing an ineligible player. It was only in one game yet they lost 12 points.

Not getting at dunloy here but this is the second time (tht I know of) that they have been up in front of the league this season and maybe were last season as well I'm not sure think I remember somethin.

I'm nothin to do wi abbeyview so you can tel me to mind my own business if you want.

Hey jeff just out of interest wot 2 times have we been up in front of the league this season and last??

This time and the riot both v ahoghill. Wasn't sure bout last season apologies if I was wrong. Not gettin at dunloy youngster jus using uz as uz are the most recent example.

[Supersub14]

its not like ahoghill looked at the card before ko, seen kevin mcallister not ticked and thought... phew its not the k.mcallister who plays higher league!!

Must of been this one who was playing:

[pele]

May 10, 2011 15:18:24 GMT Supersub14 said:

its not like ahoghill looked at the card before ko, seen kevin mcallister not ticked and thought... phew its not the k.mcallister who plays higher league!!

Must of been this one who was playing:

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I knew that name rang a bell ;D

[Jeff]

For what its worth I think a fine woulda done in this case and a fine and 3 point deduction would have been fair in views case.

[jnr88]

May 10, 2011 15:05:15 GMT Jeff said:

Jnr88 why was the punishment on abbeyview so harsh bearing in mimd it was a first offence. Playing a player who is ineligible is playing an ineligible player. It was only in one game yet they lost 12 points.

Not getting at dunloy here but this is the second time (tht I know of) that they have been up in front of the league this season and maybe were last season as well I'm not sure think I remember somethin.

I'm nothin to do wi abbeyview so you can tel me to mind my own business if you want.

No it's ok the reason 12 points were deducted from abbeyview was because they were found to have knowingly played a player who was ineligible!! Dunloy wernt found to have knowingly played an ineligible player as it was an administrative error in filling the card in incorrectly!! I hope that clears that up jeff!!

Common sense should prevail from all teams as well and they should have someone fill in the card who knows what they are doing and who should and shouldn't be ticked!!

And Rab ahoghill thistle didn't assume dunloy played ringers they knew Kevin Mcallister was higher level an wasn't ticked therefore making him ineligible in the match against them!!

[youngster]

May 10, 2011 15:17:05 GMT Jeff said:

May 10, 2011 15:08:04 GMT youngster said:

Hey jeff just out of interest wot 2 times have we been up in front of the league this season and last??

This time and the riot both v ahoghill. Wasn't sure bout last season apologies if I was wrong. Not gettin at dunloy youngster jus using uz as uz are the most recent example.

Riots abit strong considering we only had 11 players and a linesman at the game,we didnt have enuf there to riot abit out numbered to say the least but thats a thing of the past we're all good friends now

[BFP]

May 10, 2011 15:19:09 GMT @pele said:

May 10, 2011 15:18:24 GMT Supersub14 said:

its not like ahoghill looked at the card before ko, seen kevin mcallister not ticked and thought... phew its not the k.mcallister who plays higher league!!

Must of been this one who was playing:

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I knew that name rang a bell ;D

sure does ;D

[Rab]

May 10, 2011 14:56:45 GMT jnr88 said:

rab do you agree that kevin mcallister was ineligible due to him not being ticked on the match card??

if you do then i cant see how you cant agree that awarding the points to thistle was the correct decision!!

Kevin Mcallister was an eligible player, he has been all season or has been since he signed, we all know that you are allowed 3 higher league players on the pitch and Dunloy had 3 higher league players on the pitch, absolutely nothing was wrong with the players who played, they were all legit, what was wrong and is the misdemeanor, is the mistake of ticking the wrong Mcallister, this had no relevance to the outcome of the game, the result would have stayed the same if the right Mcallister was ticked, it is an admistrative error and not one which would have cheated their opponents out of 3 points, to award their opponents 3 points and deduct 3 points in my view is severe and the wrong decision.

I have no hatred of Ahoghill, I get on very well with the guys at Ahoghill, this is not personal in any shape or form, it wouldnt matter who was involved here. A severe and unjust punishment has been placed on a team in our league for a misdemeanor. I disagree with the severity of the punishment. I have nothing against people in power at the league either, again I stress that this is not personal. It is in my view right to challenge a decision you feel is unfair, there are appeal processes set in place for that to happen, the very existence of an appeal in the rules vindicates that right for me to challenge a decision made by the people in power on this messageboard, not that I need any

[Supersub14]

Rab - "Forumer of the year 2010/2011" ;D

[Jeff]

Fair enough jnr. N fair play to you for coming on here n putting your head on the block answering people, you don't have to do tht but I'm sure people appreciate your honest

[pele]

May 10, 2011 15:42:04 GMT Supersub14 said:

Rab - "Forumer of the year 2010/2011" ;D

I would vote for him ;D

I bet the Monte's have him up for a special award at the league dinner................................. a kicking in the bog's ;D

[Rab]

May 10, 2011 15:21:08 GMT jnr88 said:

May 10, 2011 15:05:15 GMT Jeff said:

Jnr88 why was the punishment on abbeyview so harsh bearing in mimd it was a first offence. Playing a player who is ineligible is playing an ineligible player. It was only in one game yet they lost 12 points.

Not getting at dunloy here but this is the second time (tht I know of) that they have been up in front of the league this season and maybe were last season as well I'm not sure think I remember somethin.

I'm nothin to do wi abbeyview so you can tel me to mind my own business if you want.

No it's ok the reason 12 points were deducted from abbeyview was because they were found to have knowingly played a player who was ineligible!! Dunloy wernt found to have knowingly played an ineligible player as it was an administrative error in filling the card in incorrectly!! I hope that clears that up jeff!!

Common sense should prevail from all teams as well and they should have someone fill in the card who knows what they are doing and who should and shouldn't be ticked!!

And Rab ahoghill thistle didn't assume dunloy played ringers they knew Kevin Mcallister was higher level an wasn't ticked therefore making him ineligible in the match against them!!

For a committee member to talk about common sense in this case does not make any sense!

As a point of order, Unless Ahoghill Thistle had Kevin Mcallisters higher league form in their possession then they had no proof he was a higher league player, they would have to assume he was a higher league player until they had that higher league form in their possession.

[suarez]

May 9, 2011 22:14:40 GMT goram said:

May 9, 2011 22:11:58 GMT @chuky1984 said:

id love u produce a photo of this goram...if u remember right it was my wee bro ryan who was the rangers fan and had every top rangers had...

hadnt cameras in them days .... wee super ally ;D

u and him were rangers mad went yous grew up way the ahoghill boys

hehe i rem this .he was wee mo johnston.naw he def was super ally.him and mooshy and bonkers all played out my back.once a teddy always a teddy

[norty]

May 10, 2011 15:01:18 GMT MW6 said:

What classifies you to be higher league?

Personally i feel that i should be classed as a higher league player because i'm so good.

[bap]

May 10, 2011 15:03:18 GMT etk said:

Think Rab is saying that although the card was wrong... the players on the pitch would have been the exact same if it was filled in correctly therefore a fine would have been a sufficient punishment.

This is a good question really and one the League must consider - maybe the rules already cover the situation but possibly a points deduction is harsh.
The player was only ineligible because the card was filled in incorrectly. How many times in a season does some hungover header write the matchcard - my name is never spelt correctly and I would bet my life there are mistakes on all cards. Does that make the players ineligible as the League does not hold that name as being registered with them? Was this one only discovered cos of Thistle's crack legal team
Just a query really - the main thing is Dunloy did not seek to gain an unfair advantage. They didnt use ringers, they simply f**ked up the card.

[Supersub14]

nicely put bap! Some sense talked there.

I still cant spell half of westends players and ive been filling out the card for years lol ;D

[LENNY]

Its only div2 lads, relax for godsake.

[jnr88]

Rab thistle knew he was higher level cos they had seen him play for dunloy fc during that season not because they seen his form!! They seen his form whenever they paid the fee to the league to inspect another teams forms!!