Post by mrfish on Jan 30, 2008 13:35:09 GMT
Celtic
"Football is nothing without Fans"
"I enjoy being manager here, because I like the people who support us."
"Celtic jerseys are not for second best, they don't shrink to fit inferior
players"
“I'd far rather talk about players, they are the people who make things
happen. “
“You're too fond of Charlie Gallagher and Harry Hood. You wouldn't win a
league with 11 Charlie Gallaghers or Harry Hoods. “
" There is no Substitute for Experience "
(Before a European Cup game to Hunter Davies (an English Journalist) touring
round Celtic and Rangers grounds who was commenting on Celtic's
unpretentious surroundings compared to Rangers more "cathedral-like
stadium")
"Ach, Rangers are alright, but they still haven't invented blue grass"
"If they were interested in what I had to say they would get here in time.
The door stays shut!"
(Jock Stein on barring late coming journos to his press talks)
"I think we could win everything in front of us. I think this could be a
season to remember."
(Jock Stein to various players at the start of the 1966/67 season, quoted by
Archie MacPherson)
"Jock, if there were two players, one Catholic and one Protestant. Who would
you sign?"
"The Protestant"
"Why?"
"Because I know that Rangers would never sign the Catholic" ha hah!! (winding up Rangers FC over their bigoted signing policies)
TV Presenter : 'Scott Symon, Rangers manager, what do you think the score
will be in the Old Firm match'
Symon : I think 2-0 to Rangers
TV Presenter : 'And you Mr Stein what will the Old Firm score be?' Big Jock : 'Only a fool would try to predict the score in an Old Firm game'
"Surely there are enough Celtic songs without introducing religion or
politics or anything else."
(After 1972 game against Stirling when he jumped into the Celtic crowd to
stand up to individuals singing sectarian songs)
"I lost some friends when I made the move, but if that's what matters to
them, then they're not really friends at all."
(On his move to Celtic which led to him being shunned and dismissed by his
old 'friends')
"It is up to us, to everyone at Celtic Park, to build up our own legends. We
don’t want to live with history, to be compared with legends from the past.
We must make new legends."
"We all end up yesterday's men in this business. Your're very quickly
forgotten."
Jock Stein in Archie MacPherson's book "The Great Derbies: Blue and Green"
(1989)
"The best place to defend is in the opposition penalty box."
'I feel we have the players fit to wear the mantle of champions of Europe. I
have told them so. Now it's up to them.'
Jock Stein after beating Vojvodina Novi in the QF of the European Cup, 1967
"If you're good enough, the referee doesn't matter."
One time being accosted by one of the knuckle-draggers:
Rangers fan: 'You only won the European Cup because you had 5 Protestants in
your team',
Stein (himself a protestant) responded: 'Well you've never won it and you've
got eleven'
"It's not Religion that's the problem - it's the lack of religion!"
"I'm happy where I am, I like the people I work with, I like the players and
the directors of this club but most of all I like the fans and to see them
happy makes me happy,so I'm very happy here."
(When asked about Man Utd showing interest in getting him to manage at Old
Trafford in early 70's)
On Lisbon 1967 and Winning the European Cup
"My time will come!"
(Jock Stein to John Mackenzie of the Scottish Daily Express, prior to
European Cup final 1967 after enduring snubs and mind games from opposite
number Herrera (Inter Milan Manager))
Stein's inspiring pre-match battle cry was: "If you're ever going to win the
European Cup, then this is the day and this is the place. But we don't just
want to win this cup, we want to do it playing good football - to make
neutrals glad we've won it, glad to remember how we did it." (Jock Stein before the game 25th March 1967)
"I am now going to tell him (Herrera) how Celtic will be the first team to
bring the European Cup back to Britain. But it will not help him in any
manner, shape or form: we are going to attack as we have never attacked
before. Cups are not won by individuals, but by men in a team who put their
club before personal prestige. I am lucky - I have the players who do just
that for Celtic"
(Jock Stein 23rd May 1967)
"We must play as if there are no more games, no more tomorrows..." (Jock Stein, shortly before kick off in Lisbon)
"We don't just want to win the European Cup. We want to do it playing good
football, to make neutrals glad we won it, please to remember how we did
it."
(Jock Stein before the European Cup win in 1967)
(After wining the European Cup)
"We did it by playing football. Pure, beautiful, inventive football". “There is always a time to move on.”
"This team will never be beaten!"
(Jock Stein to Bill Shankly on bus back, overheard by Bertie Auld)
"There is not a prouder man on God's Earth than me at this moment. Winning
was important, aye, but it was the way that we have won that has filled me
with satisfaction. We did it by playing football. Pure, beautiful, inventive
football. There was not a negative thought in our heads. Inter played right
into our hands; it's so sad to see such gifted players shackled by a system
that restricts their freedom to think and to act. Our fans would never
accept that sort of sterile approach. Our objective is always to try to win
with style."
(Jock Stein, 1967)
On Scotland
“After all, we're a small country. The Finns and Norwegians, you don't get
them saying, We're going to win the World Cup. “
(World Cup in Spain 1982 about Scotland fans)
“We do have the greatest fans in the world but I’ve never seen a fan score a
goal.”
On others
(on Booby Moore, West Ham and England Defender from 1960s) "There should be a law against him. He knows what's happening 20 minutes
before anyone else." Jock Stein, Celtic manager, talking about Bobby Moore,
1969.
(on Bill Shankly the then Liverpool Manager)
"I don't believe everything Bill tells me about his players. If they were
that good, they'd not only have won the European Cup but the Ryder Cup, the
Boat Race and even the Grand National!" :
Quotes about Jock Stein
Alex Ferguson
“I always thought Jock Stein was the perfect international manager. But you
(England) don't have anyone like that. You don't have Jock Steins, you'll
never have a Jock Stein.”
Alex Ferguson
"I am proud to say that I knew Jock Stein as a manager, as a colleague and
as a friend... he was the greatest manager in British football... men like
Jock will live forever in the memory."
Bill Shankly
To Jock Stein after the 1966 CWC tie with Celtic at Anfield: "Jock, do you
want your share of the gate money or shall we just return the empties ?"
Bill Shankly to Jock Stein in the Dressing room just after they won the
European Cup (1967)
"John, you're immortal now!"
(Jock Stein in turn just laughed...)
"The greatest manager in the history of the game. You tell me a manager
anywhere in the world who did something comparable, winning the European Cup
with a Glasgow District XI."
Hugh McIlvaney (journalist) in his documentary "Busby, Stein and Shankly:
The Football Men 1997"
"The problem for us is that Big Jock and his players spoiled it for everyone
who came after them..."
Lou Macari, on becoming Celtic Manager (1994)
'I've got a vivid memory from 1965, when it was announced he was coming back
from Hibs, of Billy McNeill saying, ''Oh thats fantastic! Wait and see how
things change now!''.'
John Divers, 1995 on the return of Jock Stein to the club as manager.
Other anecdotes
1)
I remember during the school holidays me and some of my pals used to walk
from the gorbals to celtic park to see the players and get some autograghs i
must have been about 9 at the time ,Big Jock gets out his car coming back
from barrowfiield,as where the player i asked big jock for his autogragh and
he said to me: "hey son wit day yi want ma autogragh fur its they guys there
you want to sign yer book." He gave me a wee pat on the head and a smile ,so
away i went to the players for autographs happy as can be
(Geezerbhoy of the KStreet forum Apr 2006, source)
2)
Me and my mate went down to CP on the afternoon of the Dynamo Kiev game (
season 67/68 ) , Jock Stein was standing at the front door, I approached him
and said that my mate had never seen the EC up close, so was there any
chance of a look. The big man looked at my mate and said " We cannie be
hivin that, come wi me the baith ae ye." He took both of us into the trophy
room and showed us the big cup. He spotted someone walking past the room and
went after him. He came back a few minutes later with a photographer from
the Evening Citizen and told him to take a photo of us with the trophy. He
also told the snapper to get our names and addresses and to send us a photo
each, (the rotten barsteward never did send them) and added that he would
have to go as he was quite busy. We both thanked him and left with a sense
of awe.
To me that was a sign of the mans greatness, on the afternoon of the most
important game of the season he could take time out for some fans. (From "Ally Les Verts" of the KStreet forum May 2007 Source)
3)
Another wee story about the big man.
As I was born and raised just across from Barrowfield training ground a few
of us used to go and watch the training sessions. The players played a game
whereby they could only touch the ball twice, one to trap/control and then
pass.
This day Tommy Gemmil and Big Yogi had started to argue and Big Jock Stein
came over to find out what had happened, it went like this.
BJS " Whits gone on here."
T.G. " Yogi's cheatin, boss , he's touched the ba' three times." ( which he
did )
Y. " Naw ah didnae, boss, he's makin it up tae get a free kick."
BJS " Carry on Yogi, nae free kick."
T.G. " Ats no fair boss he did touch it mair than he's sayin."
BJS " Ach everybody knows catholics don't tell lies."
(From "Ally Les Verts" of the KStreet forum May 2007 Source)
"Football is nothing without Fans"
"I enjoy being manager here, because I like the people who support us."
"Celtic jerseys are not for second best, they don't shrink to fit inferior
players"
“I'd far rather talk about players, they are the people who make things
happen. “
“You're too fond of Charlie Gallagher and Harry Hood. You wouldn't win a
league with 11 Charlie Gallaghers or Harry Hoods. “
" There is no Substitute for Experience "
(Before a European Cup game to Hunter Davies (an English Journalist) touring
round Celtic and Rangers grounds who was commenting on Celtic's
unpretentious surroundings compared to Rangers more "cathedral-like
stadium")
"Ach, Rangers are alright, but they still haven't invented blue grass"
"If they were interested in what I had to say they would get here in time.
The door stays shut!"
(Jock Stein on barring late coming journos to his press talks)
"I think we could win everything in front of us. I think this could be a
season to remember."
(Jock Stein to various players at the start of the 1966/67 season, quoted by
Archie MacPherson)
"Jock, if there were two players, one Catholic and one Protestant. Who would
you sign?"
"The Protestant"
"Why?"
"Because I know that Rangers would never sign the Catholic" ha hah!! (winding up Rangers FC over their bigoted signing policies)
TV Presenter : 'Scott Symon, Rangers manager, what do you think the score
will be in the Old Firm match'
Symon : I think 2-0 to Rangers
TV Presenter : 'And you Mr Stein what will the Old Firm score be?' Big Jock : 'Only a fool would try to predict the score in an Old Firm game'
"Surely there are enough Celtic songs without introducing religion or
politics or anything else."
(After 1972 game against Stirling when he jumped into the Celtic crowd to
stand up to individuals singing sectarian songs)
"I lost some friends when I made the move, but if that's what matters to
them, then they're not really friends at all."
(On his move to Celtic which led to him being shunned and dismissed by his
old 'friends')
"It is up to us, to everyone at Celtic Park, to build up our own legends. We
don’t want to live with history, to be compared with legends from the past.
We must make new legends."
"We all end up yesterday's men in this business. Your're very quickly
forgotten."
Jock Stein in Archie MacPherson's book "The Great Derbies: Blue and Green"
(1989)
"The best place to defend is in the opposition penalty box."
'I feel we have the players fit to wear the mantle of champions of Europe. I
have told them so. Now it's up to them.'
Jock Stein after beating Vojvodina Novi in the QF of the European Cup, 1967
"If you're good enough, the referee doesn't matter."
One time being accosted by one of the knuckle-draggers:
Rangers fan: 'You only won the European Cup because you had 5 Protestants in
your team',
Stein (himself a protestant) responded: 'Well you've never won it and you've
got eleven'
"It's not Religion that's the problem - it's the lack of religion!"
"I'm happy where I am, I like the people I work with, I like the players and
the directors of this club but most of all I like the fans and to see them
happy makes me happy,so I'm very happy here."
(When asked about Man Utd showing interest in getting him to manage at Old
Trafford in early 70's)
On Lisbon 1967 and Winning the European Cup
"My time will come!"
(Jock Stein to John Mackenzie of the Scottish Daily Express, prior to
European Cup final 1967 after enduring snubs and mind games from opposite
number Herrera (Inter Milan Manager))
Stein's inspiring pre-match battle cry was: "If you're ever going to win the
European Cup, then this is the day and this is the place. But we don't just
want to win this cup, we want to do it playing good football - to make
neutrals glad we've won it, glad to remember how we did it." (Jock Stein before the game 25th March 1967)
"I am now going to tell him (Herrera) how Celtic will be the first team to
bring the European Cup back to Britain. But it will not help him in any
manner, shape or form: we are going to attack as we have never attacked
before. Cups are not won by individuals, but by men in a team who put their
club before personal prestige. I am lucky - I have the players who do just
that for Celtic"
(Jock Stein 23rd May 1967)
"We must play as if there are no more games, no more tomorrows..." (Jock Stein, shortly before kick off in Lisbon)
"We don't just want to win the European Cup. We want to do it playing good
football, to make neutrals glad we won it, please to remember how we did
it."
(Jock Stein before the European Cup win in 1967)
(After wining the European Cup)
"We did it by playing football. Pure, beautiful, inventive football". “There is always a time to move on.”
"This team will never be beaten!"
(Jock Stein to Bill Shankly on bus back, overheard by Bertie Auld)
"There is not a prouder man on God's Earth than me at this moment. Winning
was important, aye, but it was the way that we have won that has filled me
with satisfaction. We did it by playing football. Pure, beautiful, inventive
football. There was not a negative thought in our heads. Inter played right
into our hands; it's so sad to see such gifted players shackled by a system
that restricts their freedom to think and to act. Our fans would never
accept that sort of sterile approach. Our objective is always to try to win
with style."
(Jock Stein, 1967)
On Scotland
“After all, we're a small country. The Finns and Norwegians, you don't get
them saying, We're going to win the World Cup. “
(World Cup in Spain 1982 about Scotland fans)
“We do have the greatest fans in the world but I’ve never seen a fan score a
goal.”
On others
(on Booby Moore, West Ham and England Defender from 1960s) "There should be a law against him. He knows what's happening 20 minutes
before anyone else." Jock Stein, Celtic manager, talking about Bobby Moore,
1969.
(on Bill Shankly the then Liverpool Manager)
"I don't believe everything Bill tells me about his players. If they were
that good, they'd not only have won the European Cup but the Ryder Cup, the
Boat Race and even the Grand National!" :
Quotes about Jock Stein
Alex Ferguson
“I always thought Jock Stein was the perfect international manager. But you
(England) don't have anyone like that. You don't have Jock Steins, you'll
never have a Jock Stein.”
Alex Ferguson
"I am proud to say that I knew Jock Stein as a manager, as a colleague and
as a friend... he was the greatest manager in British football... men like
Jock will live forever in the memory."
Bill Shankly
To Jock Stein after the 1966 CWC tie with Celtic at Anfield: "Jock, do you
want your share of the gate money or shall we just return the empties ?"
Bill Shankly to Jock Stein in the Dressing room just after they won the
European Cup (1967)
"John, you're immortal now!"
(Jock Stein in turn just laughed...)
"The greatest manager in the history of the game. You tell me a manager
anywhere in the world who did something comparable, winning the European Cup
with a Glasgow District XI."
Hugh McIlvaney (journalist) in his documentary "Busby, Stein and Shankly:
The Football Men 1997"
"The problem for us is that Big Jock and his players spoiled it for everyone
who came after them..."
Lou Macari, on becoming Celtic Manager (1994)
'I've got a vivid memory from 1965, when it was announced he was coming back
from Hibs, of Billy McNeill saying, ''Oh thats fantastic! Wait and see how
things change now!''.'
John Divers, 1995 on the return of Jock Stein to the club as manager.
Other anecdotes
1)
I remember during the school holidays me and some of my pals used to walk
from the gorbals to celtic park to see the players and get some autograghs i
must have been about 9 at the time ,Big Jock gets out his car coming back
from barrowfiield,as where the player i asked big jock for his autogragh and
he said to me: "hey son wit day yi want ma autogragh fur its they guys there
you want to sign yer book." He gave me a wee pat on the head and a smile ,so
away i went to the players for autographs happy as can be
(Geezerbhoy of the KStreet forum Apr 2006, source)
2)
Me and my mate went down to CP on the afternoon of the Dynamo Kiev game (
season 67/68 ) , Jock Stein was standing at the front door, I approached him
and said that my mate had never seen the EC up close, so was there any
chance of a look. The big man looked at my mate and said " We cannie be
hivin that, come wi me the baith ae ye." He took both of us into the trophy
room and showed us the big cup. He spotted someone walking past the room and
went after him. He came back a few minutes later with a photographer from
the Evening Citizen and told him to take a photo of us with the trophy. He
also told the snapper to get our names and addresses and to send us a photo
each, (the rotten barsteward never did send them) and added that he would
have to go as he was quite busy. We both thanked him and left with a sense
of awe.
To me that was a sign of the mans greatness, on the afternoon of the most
important game of the season he could take time out for some fans. (From "Ally Les Verts" of the KStreet forum May 2007 Source)
3)
Another wee story about the big man.
As I was born and raised just across from Barrowfield training ground a few
of us used to go and watch the training sessions. The players played a game
whereby they could only touch the ball twice, one to trap/control and then
pass.
This day Tommy Gemmil and Big Yogi had started to argue and Big Jock Stein
came over to find out what had happened, it went like this.
BJS " Whits gone on here."
T.G. " Yogi's cheatin, boss , he's touched the ba' three times." ( which he
did )
Y. " Naw ah didnae, boss, he's makin it up tae get a free kick."
BJS " Carry on Yogi, nae free kick."
T.G. " Ats no fair boss he did touch it mair than he's sayin."
BJS " Ach everybody knows catholics don't tell lies."
(From "Ally Les Verts" of the KStreet forum May 2007 Source)
