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Post by Jeff on Feb 23, 2010 15:34:26 GMT
Absolutely shockin, will we ever leave this s**te behind. Listen to this goat 51 minutes in. What kind of warped world do these people live in. Do they actually believe the muck they spout? www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00qzvdm |
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Post by mrfish on Feb 23, 2010 15:41:42 GMT
They're on both sides!!!!!!
I don't think there's any difference between the bombings and people being kicked to death in the streets as happened in Coleraine, Ballymena etc. Sure it almost happened me FFS just walking up my own street. 20 gutless trampy b*****ds!!!!!
This dump will never change!!!!
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Post by cocky on Feb 23, 2010 15:49:08 GMT
theres no need to call Bremner, Pugford, Jeff, Harty and their mates gutless trampy b*****ds.
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Post by mrfish on Feb 23, 2010 15:59:32 GMT
....a bit strong I know but I nearly missed a Stag party to Liverpool over it!!!
Seriously though, there's one side (Republicans in whatever shape or form) in the spotlight these days after recent events but IMO none of this has gone away, either side. Sadly, I don't think we'll ever properly all get on. One's as bad as the other!!!
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Post by ratman on Feb 23, 2010 16:49:17 GMT
the only way we can move away from this sectarianism is through the promotion of more racism...it will bring the cattle prodders and the archie mitchells together...
END SECTARIANISM SUPPORT RACISM
but not the chinese they cook a good scran....
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Post by Jeff on Feb 23, 2010 17:42:37 GMT
the kickings the beatings the drugs is all part of a wider issue we arent alone in that problem, not that I am condoning it in anyway whatsoever. Even if the organisations all disappeared over time the criminality would remain. I no it will take years to change the mentality in this country. I remember seeing you at a match at the waveny just after ud got that hammering fish. If there was only 20 of them I would have thought you wuda had it covered. Were where Arthur n Rat that day lol
The warped idea that these chaps planting bombs to kill and maime innocents are freedom fighters is so far beyond reality its crazy. I would love to know that goes on in their heads. Planting a bomb in a predominantly nationalist town how will that advance the cause? Its crazy!!
My worry is its only a matter of time before the 'other' side retaliate. There is no room for either side in todays society.
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Post by Jeff on Feb 23, 2010 17:43:04 GMT
the only way we can move away from this sectarianism is through the promotion of more racism...it will bring the cattle prodders and the archie mitchells together... END SECTARIANISM SUPPORT RACISM but not the chinese they cook a good scran.... ;D |
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Post by greene on Feb 23, 2010 18:04:46 GMT
They're on both sides!!!!!! I don't think there's any difference between the bombings and people being kicked to death in the streets as happened in Coleraine, Ballymena etc. Sure it almost happened me FFS just walking up my own street. 20 gutless trampy b*****ds!!!!! This dump will never change!!!! when did it happen to you fishter mate |
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Post by mrfish on Feb 24, 2010 8:41:08 GMT
...true Jeff, my point was that there was a large section of community who waided into The Heights and kicked a man to death because he was a Catholic, nothing else, pure sectarian hatred. Then a "70 strong loyalist mob" weighed in to support them at court with scarves over their faces, supporting murderers and intimidating victims families. IMO that is no different to the beliefs or mindset of the person you mentioned in your first post. I can't access that in work so I don't know what's on the link but I'd take a guess that it's someone (probably on Nolan lol) defending "the armed struggle" and "get the brits out" etc. It's what they believe and for me no different or more a problem than the views and mindsets of those who murdered an innocent cross community worker in such a terrible sectarian manner. Both sets are killing for what they believe in. To me and you it's madness but they believe it. The support for both isn't minor in any way and will always be a problem.
That was my point Jeff, The RIRA and the UDA (and other groups) are still very active, although in different ways, but still stuck in the past. For me, blowing someone up for doing a job they love and signed for is no worse than slowly kicking an innocent civilian to death. A form of Republicanism blew up Newry Court House (and killed elsewhere) and a form of Loyalism killed in Coleraine/Ballymena etc.
Totally agree, we have to move on, murder, I believe, will achieve nothing!!!
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Post by mrfish on Feb 24, 2010 8:48:15 GMT
...Greene, it happened me almost two years ago, stabbed in the head and battered with baseball bats and the like by four car loads of pure gutless scum as I walked home with my headphones in minding my own business. Left me for dead the b*****ds but I got lucky, unlike the poor innocent child two years before me, who's anniversary I got it on.
Being totally honest, I was glad it was me and not another child or someone with a smaller head than me. They might not have survived.
It's not nice seeing that scum closing you down and realising you have to stand and fight as there's nowhere to run. Noone would stand a chance, I was no different!!!
I'm still here though....
And Rat, genius as always!!!!! hahaha....
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Post by greene on Feb 24, 2010 11:11:45 GMT
dirty b*****ds mate.
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Post by turfcutter on Feb 24, 2010 11:20:52 GMT
one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. itl take a while yet for this country to bury the hatchet with each other
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Post by Jeff on Feb 24, 2010 12:09:44 GMT
one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. itl take a while yet for this country to bury the hatchet with each other Im sorry but thats balls do you actually believe that?? That would imply that there is a war when it was nothing more than a dirty campaign. If they were attacking the army or whatever I could maybe get my head around it ( it would still be wrong make no mistake about that) but bombing and killing innocents, catholics and protestant what does that achieve? |
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Post by chesneybhoy on Feb 24, 2010 13:09:14 GMT
...Greene, it happened me almost two years ago, stabbed in the head and battered with baseball bats and the like by four car loads of pure gutless scum as I walked home with my headphones in minding my own business. Left me for dead the b*****ds but I got lucky, unlike the poor innocent child two years before me, who's anniversary I got it on. Being totally honest, I was glad it was me and not another child or someone with a smaller head than me. They might not have survived. It's not nice seeing that scum closing you down and realising you have to stand and fight as there's nowhere to run. Noone would stand a chance, I was no different!!! I'm still here though.... And Rat, genius as always!!!!! hahaha.... Very true my friend, nothing but gutless bigoted B*****ds  |
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Post by mrfish on Feb 24, 2010 14:06:55 GMT
one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. itl take a while yet for this country to bury the hatchet with each other Im sorry but thats balls do you actually believe that?? That would imply that there is a war when it was nothing more than a dirty campaign. If they were attacking the army or whatever I could maybe get my head around it ( it would still be wrong make no mistake about that) but bombing and killing innocents, catholics and protestant what does that achieve? I think we (the forum) could start going down the wrong road here if we continue this much further. Next people will be asking about innocent people being killed by loyalists and then reply's about Republicans doing worse etc etc. On this island, some believe they were fighting a war. IMO you'd have to have grown up somewhere that the troubles really took place, back in the days, and put yourself in those people's shoes about why they feel they're fighting British rule in Ireland. History shows, am I'm sure most of us are to some degree aware, just how messed up this country was. Bombings, shootings, inoecent people dying, Security Force involvement etc etc. I personally can't stand up and say that these problems should just go away, I wish they would, but I totally understand SOME people on either side having their beliefs and beliving in what they're doing for what they see as their cause/country etc, both sides. In my opinion, if we're going to have this discussion on here we can't stand by and just point the finger at the "other" side. The bomb in Newry was madness but no lives were lost THANKFULLY and as Jeff said in a Nationalist area where Catholics nearby would have ben the more likely victim for me doesn't make sense BUT then you open the can of worms. I responded origionally about Coleraine as I thought if it's the sectarian problem in general we're talking about then just highlighting Rebulicanism isn't exactly the right way to go about it. FFS we'd be here all day if we go down this route. Jeff asked there "what would it achieve" killing innocent people refering only to basically the real IRA BUT as I've stressed loyalism has had it's share of recent murders on the innocent also. This I fear is the road we'll go down, tit for tat, should this thread go much further!! To finish, both sides are to blame for this, some elements have their beliefs for understanable reasons in my view and on both sides are also the w****rs who know f**k all about the history they claim to cherish. It's those who still harbour these beliefs and ideals that will continue to destroy any chance we have of happiness and prosperity on this Isand, no one side is to blame. |
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Post by Jeff on Feb 24, 2010 14:36:18 GMT
Fish I didnt mean to come across as one sided though it may have seemed that way. There is no justification for killing innocents on either side. Im just trying to get my head around what these people are trying to achieve by attempting to bomb another majority Catholic town. They arent fighting a war they are scum of the highest order. Thats the same for anyone who would consider taking innocent lives in the name of a cause.
Once upon a time it could have been argued that both sides had people fighting for the 'cause'. I dont think anyone could put that arguement forward now tbh.
The morans carrrying out these attacks should be condemed as the scum that they are not proclaimed as 'freedon fighters'
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Post by turfcutter on Feb 24, 2010 17:30:15 GMT
one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. itl take a while yet for this country to bury the hatchet with each other Im sorry but thats balls do you actually believe that?? That would imply that there is a war when it was nothing more than a dirty campaign. If they were attacking the army or whatever I could maybe get my head around it ( it would still be wrong make no mistake about that) but bombing and killing innocents, catholics and protestant what does that achieve? no you thick b*****d, i was just pointing out that there will always be a difference of opinions no matter how extreme the measures people take. itl take a couple of generations before this kind of behaviour dissappears. f**k this thread, why dont you start one about how the size of a wham bar has got really small over the years or what happened to creamola foam?  ?leave the war where it was. let bad memories stay where they're at  |
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Post by Jeff on Feb 24, 2010 17:40:15 GMT
so just clarify then for me turfcutter since im a think b*****d. Are the people who bombed Newry scum or are they freedom fighters?
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Post by greene on Feb 24, 2010 20:20:56 GMT
feck me jeff did you not read his post correctly. he was just saying thats what some people think.
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Post by turfcutter on Feb 24, 2010 21:58:46 GMT
so just clarify then for me turfcutter since im a think b*****d. Are the people who bombed Newry scum or are they freedom fighters? no bother, anything to help a thick b*****d. the vast majority of the people of Ireland will classify them as scum. a very small % will see them as freedom fighters. simple maths lad. they havnt the same support the bon jovis had thats for sure., but they're still a thorn in the back side for the majority of ppl |
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Post by adriany on Feb 24, 2010 22:21:49 GMT
Bring back Cremola Foam lads
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Post by turfcutter on Feb 24, 2010 22:23:32 GMT
creamola foam was f**king lethal stan...bigtime, and whatever happened to the secret bar. do you rem it???
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Post by goram on Feb 24, 2010 22:24:14 GMT
crap thread  |
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Post by adriany on Feb 24, 2010 22:27:38 GMT
No turfie mucker I dont recall them il google them now to jog the memory,
Cremola foam rocked mate I fooking loved it, hate the spoonfulls of it
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Post by turfcutter on Feb 24, 2010 22:30:17 GMT
crap thread agreed. stupid f**king topic of conversation that only gets ppl wound up. back to creamola foam....mmmmmmmm |
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Post by goram on Feb 24, 2010 22:34:51 GMT
crap thread agreed. stupid f**king topic of conversation that only gets ppl wound up. back to creamola foam....mmmmmmmm HUGHIE HILLIS STILL DOES IT LADS  |
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Post by adriany on Feb 24, 2010 22:37:34 GMT
f**k off goram dont tease us like that mate, I think you've shares in Hughies the amount of advertising your doing here for him...Hillis's of the Larne rd,
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Post by goram on Feb 24, 2010 22:43:07 GMT
trying 2 get him 2 sponsor us a new kit he said 2 me would 100 buy it i told him x4 HILLIS TUCKSHOP |
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Post by greene on Feb 24, 2010 22:45:58 GMT
hes hughie hillis's secret love child stan mate.lol
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Post by Jeff on Feb 24, 2010 22:49:21 GMT
so just clarify then for me turfcutter since im a think b*****d. Are the people who bombed Newry scum or are they freedom fighters? no bother, anything to help a thick b*****d. the vast majority of the people of Ireland will classify them as scum. a very small % will see them as freedom fighters. simple maths lad. they havnt the same support the bon jovis had thats for sure., but they're still a thorn in the back side for the majority of ppl yes sir i know the maths but i was askin for your opinion on the situation which category would you put those bombers in. Sorry for being a thick b*****d just tryin to put it in simple terms for you |
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?leave the war where it was. let bad memories stay where they're at 
