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Post by BFP on Apr 29, 2009 9:27:52 GMT
poor result last night, better team, even when down to ten men after half an hour, and missed to open nets. ref done us no favours either, BFP got sent off for pushing someone after that someone kicked him in the face, and there is no way the ref could have missed the kick in the face. must be riding the moylena player cos he let him off with everything all night. also blew us up everytime we attacked for offside, twice in particular crilly was given offside and wasnt even close. then anytime they were blatantly off he let it go. their second goal in particular was miles off, even their players were laughing at it. but then again, why would he be biased, after all what interest would hook have in us dropping points!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   |
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Post by adriany on Apr 29, 2009 10:48:40 GMT
Watched this match and I thought Connor was very lucky to stay on aswell BFP along with their centre half. Cant believe Reidy missed thast chance at the end but then again Moylena missed 2 golden chances at the end also.
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Post by stumpy on Apr 29, 2009 11:21:55 GMT
poor result last night, better team, even when down to ten men after half an hour, and missed to open nets. ref done us no favours either, BFP got sent off for pushing someone after that someone kicked him in the face, and there is no way the ref could have missed the kick in the face. must be riding the moylena player cos he let him off with everything all night. also blew us up everytime we attacked for offside, twice in particular crilly was given offside and wasnt even close. then anytime they were blatantly off he let it go. their second goal in particular was miles off, even their players were laughing at it. but then again, why would he be biased, after all what interest would hook have in us dropping points!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! how use do paul??do u no any other scores  |
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Post by BFP on Apr 29, 2009 12:37:02 GMT
Watched this match and I thought Connor was very lucky to stay on aswell BFP along with their centre half. Cant believe Reidy missed thast chance at the end but then again Moylena missed 2 golden chances at the end also. completely agree with you, though that just goes to show inconsistencys, i got a red for a push in the back, and crilly got a yellow for a kick, and their centre half got nothing for kicking me twice and kicking crilly once. as for their chances at the end, the second one was a country mile offside plus our keeper saved it anyway. with our chances they were open nets!!! thing that really annoys me is that hook was one of the hardest (dirtiest) footballers to play in the league, and to send someone off for a push in the back, and let the man off for a theatrical dive when i pushed him that would have been better off in the westend, is totally ludicrous |
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Post by adriany on Apr 29, 2009 13:07:22 GMT
Agreed BFP
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Post by LENNY on Apr 29, 2009 13:15:32 GMT
il not even start on the ref..
game we could have won, and so easily lost too..draw prob fair result.
we really need to get back to basics in defence.
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Post by barstool on Apr 29, 2009 13:19:04 GMT
Apart from Rab Swann I haven't seen a single good performance from a ref all season to be quite honest. Very poor indeed.
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Post by BFP on Apr 29, 2009 13:31:43 GMT
i always found jim devine to be very good and fair. hope wa quits homers this season, cos he is a very good ref, could do with him back in.
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Post by stevie1 on Apr 29, 2009 15:10:42 GMT
BFP - your version of events would differ from mine to be honest. You and Tommo were at it the whole game. Kick in the face? Possibly but not deliberate. I have played football with Tommo for a long time and he is not that type of player and you should know that! Rules are rules. You lift your hands and you go. Yours was even worse cos it was a cheap shot when his back was turned to you! I also saw the incident where Crilly was booked and he was very lucky to stay on. The only reason he did was maybe the referee didn't want you down to 9 men!? Fait play to you boys with 10 men cos you ran your balls off and did create chances. As for the offsides, i was out to make tackles/blocks anyway so it was irrelevant. I think based on clear cut chances we should have edged the game but neither team took their chances so we will never know. Draw maybe fair in the end.
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Post by barstool on Apr 29, 2009 15:24:29 GMT
BFP - your version of events would differ from mine to be honest. You and Tommo were at it the whole game. Kick in the face? Possibly but not deliberate. I have played football with Tommo for a long time and he is not that type of player and you should know that! Rules are rules. You lift your hands and you go. Yours was even worse cos it was a cheap shot when his back was turned to you! I also saw the incident where Crilly was booked and he was very lucky to stay on. The only reason he did was maybe the referee didn't want you down to 9 men!? Fait play to you boys with 10 men cos you ran your balls off and did create chances. As for the offsides, i was out to make tackles/blocks anyway so it was irrelevant. I think based on clear cut chances we should have edged the game but neither team took their chances so we will never know. Draw maybe fair in the end. mmm....cast my mind back to a good few weeks ago.....moylena no.7(wee blonde chap) headbutts our player(breaking his nose) at opposite end of the pitch to where the ball is.....you's protested enough that day to convince the ref (who hadn't a clue in general all game) not to send off your player....and didn't quite grasp the fact that he had done wrong. So moral of the story.....headbutting ok, a shove is a NO NO NO! |
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Post by BFP on Apr 29, 2009 15:54:37 GMT
BFP - your version of events would differ from mine to be honest. You and Tommo were at it the whole game. Kick in the face? Possibly but not deliberate. I have played football with Tommo for a long time and he is not that type of player and you should know that! Rules are rules. You lift your hands and you go. Yours was even worse cos it was a cheap shot when his back was turned to you! I also saw the incident where Crilly was booked and he was very lucky to stay on. The only reason he did was maybe the referee didn't want you down to 9 men!? Fait play to you boys with 10 men cos you ran your balls off and did create chances. As for the offsides, i was out to make tackles/blocks anyway so it was irrelevant. I think based on clear cut chances we should have edged the game but neither team took their chances so we will never know. Draw maybe fair in the end. me and tommo were at nothing the whole game, the only two times was in the space of a minute, tell me of any other times. the kick on the ground prior to the kick in the face was deliberate, also the kick in the face was when my back was to him and his feet were dangerously high, remember i am over 6 foot so a kick that high is deliberate in my eyes. Also the whistle had already went. I have played against tommo when he was at michelin and against you's and everytime he has been a dirty ba*tard. remember you have only played with him, not against him. i already said crilly should have been sent off for that kick, but tommo kicked him first them held his leg, so he should have been sent off that time aswell, yet he wasn't even booked the whole game long, double standards in my eyes. him and the ref must be nailing each other. lifting your hands in a striking action and you have to go, not for a push. does that mean if im going up for a header and someone pushes me in the back its a red card for him? i dont think so. pushing someone on the back is hardly a cheap shot, its not exactly going to kill him is it. if i had punched him, then yes it would have been a cheap shot and would have deserved a red card, not a f**king push. armie shouting on the line, look at the size of you, you've had worse things happen you, then tommo dives like he has been shot, and that is ok with armie! as for you being out to make tackles, do you not remember the other three times when you made tackles? first one, peter went round you and scored, the second time, you came to kick or punch or god knows what you were trying with my throw in, missed it and paddy logan headed it in, then the third time you were out to tackle a one on one, our man was left with an open net and missed. so lets just say i imagine crilly would have been favourite against you. |
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Post by LENNY on Apr 29, 2009 16:14:08 GMT
BFP - your version of events would differ from mine to be honest. You and Tommo were at it the whole game. Kick in the face? Possibly but not deliberate. I have played football with Tommo for a long time and he is not that type of player and you should know that! Rules are rules. You lift your hands and you go. Yours was even worse cos it was a cheap shot when his back was turned to you! I also saw the incident where Crilly was booked and he was very lucky to stay on. The only reason he did was maybe the referee didn't want you down to 9 men!? Fait play to you boys with 10 men cos you ran your balls off and did create chances. As for the offsides, i was out to make tackles/blocks anyway so it was irrelevant. I think based on clear cut chances we should have edged the game but neither team took their chances so we will never know. Draw maybe fair in the end. me and tommo were at nothing the whole game, the only two times was in the space of a minute, tell me of any other times. the kick on the ground prior to the kick in the face was deliberate, also the kick in the face was when my back was to him and his feet were dangerously high, remember i am over 6 foot so a kick that high is deliberate in my eyes. Also the whistle had already went. I have played against tommo when he was at michelin and against you's and everytime he has been a dirty ba*tard. remember you have only played with him, not against him. i already said crilly should have been sent off for that kick, but tommo kicked him first them held his leg, so he should have been sent off that time aswell, yet he wasn't even booked the whole game long, double standards in my eyes. him and the ref must be nailing each other. lifting your hands in a striking action and you have to go, not for a push. does that mean if im going up for a header and someone pushes me in the back its a red card for him? i dont think so. pushing someone on the back is hardly a cheap shot, its not exactly going to kill him is it. if i had punched him, then yes it would have been a cheap shot and would have deserved a red card, not a f**king push. armie shouting on the line, look at the size of you, you've had worse things happen you, then tommo dives like he has been shot, and that is ok with armie! as for you being out to make tackles, do you not remember the other three times when you made tackles? first one, peter went round you and scored, the second time, you came to kick or punch or god knows what you were trying with my throw in, missed it and paddy logan headed it in, then the third time you were out to tackle a one on one, our man was left with an open net and missed. so lets just say i imagine crilly would have been favourite against you. cant really argue with that.. |
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Post by stevie1 on Apr 29, 2009 17:26:34 GMT
Classic Rant Paul. Up there with Rafa! We will have to agree to disagree on a few points, but that's what the forums are all about. Everybody has their own views and opinions. To be honest, I can't remember the head butting incident you are on about, but I am sure if it happened and the ref saw it, then a sending off should have been the outcome. As for the 3 occasions you are talking about; 1) Great dummy and finish by your bro. Just like the dummy i did on him to skin him in the 2nd half.  2) Have to agree the 2nd goal was a complete shocker by me. Tried to punch it and got the faintest of touches on it. Can't be perfect like you all the time. 3) I actually made the one on one tackle on Michael. If I hadn't he would without any question scored as the ball would have run on towards the net. It's not my fault he missed a sitter. I was talking to him afterwards and he said he didn't think he had the time and had to hit it 1st time. Anyway, good luck for the rest of the season with the football and gaelic. |
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Post by weedo on Apr 29, 2009 18:45:44 GMT
we had a ref last nite who allowed an fc antrim player too push him in the chest and tell him to get to f**k, and still didnt send him off!!!!unreal!!!!
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Post by raj2112 on Apr 29, 2009 18:54:37 GMT
but then again, why would he be biased, after all what interest would hook have in us dropping points!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know you are sore from dropping points last night and from getting sent off and missing the derby match, but that is diabolical statement. Are you trying to insinuate that Hook favours Carniny. Paul do you realise how many points we are ahead of you? Why would we need a referee like Hook to do us favours to stop you gaining points? Hook is one of the better refs in the league. Maybe you should go to Monty with your concerns. |
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Post by LENNY on Apr 29, 2009 21:36:51 GMT
we had a ref last nite who allowed an fc antrim player too push him in the chest and tell him to get to f**k, and still didnt send him off!!!!unreal!!!! haha, few players have got 3 years for that.. |
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Post by BFP on Apr 29, 2009 21:48:06 GMT
but then again, why would he be biased, after all what interest would hook have in us dropping points!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know you are sore from dropping points last night and from getting sent off and missing the derby match, but that is diabolical statement. Are you trying to insinuate that Hook favours Carniny. Paul do you realise how many points we are ahead of you? Why would we need a referee like Hook to do us favours to stop you gaining points? Hook is one of the better refs in the league. Maybe you should go to Monty with your concerns. my point exactly, you dont need help from hook. doesnt mean he wont give you's any. wouldnt be the first time he helped his son out when refereeing us. he squared up to one of our players when his son was fouled!!! hook defo favours carniny, why wouldnt he when his son plays for them. doesnt mean he has to blatantly be biased against us. as for me missing the derby, i wouldnt have been playing anyway. i only played last night because we were missing quite alot of players. I never play these days unless we are struggling. im sore from getting sent off surely, because in my eyes a push in the back is not a sending off offence. anyone would be pissed off with it. |
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Post by barstool on Apr 30, 2009 7:08:46 GMT
Classic Rant Paul. Up there with Rafa! We will have to agree to disagree on a few points, but that's what the forums are all about. Everybody has their own views and opinions. To be honest, I can't remember the head butting incident you are on about, but I am sure if it happened and the ref saw it, then a sending off should have been the outcome. As for the 3 occasions you are talking about; 1) Great dummy and finish by your bro. Just like the dummy i did on him to skin him in the 2nd half. 2) Have to agree the 2nd goal was a complete shocker by me. Tried to punch it and got the faintest of touches on it. Can't be perfect like you all the time. 3) I actually made the one on one tackle on Michael. If I hadn't he would without any question scored as the ball would have run on towards the net. It's not my fault he missed a sitter. I was talking to him afterwards and he said he didn't think he had the time and had to hit it 1st time. Anyway, good luck for the rest of the season with the football and gaelic. It started a 20 man brawl, where both teams were at each others throat, the ref, who was clueless, 'abondoned' the game, then 5 mins later played on'....remember....  |
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Post by barstool on Apr 30, 2009 7:10:40 GMT
we had a ref last nite who allowed an fc antrim player too push him in the chest and tell him to get to f**k, and still didnt send him off!!!!unreal!!!! Seriously?? Crazy, ref get scared i take it. What was the score in that one anyway? |
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Post by raj2112 on Apr 30, 2009 16:02:06 GMT
my point exactly, you dont need help from hook. doesnt mean he wont give you's any. wouldnt be the first time he helped his son out when refereeing us. he squared up to one of our players when his son was fouled!!! hook defo favours carniny, why wouldnt he when his son plays for them. doesnt mean he has to blatantly be biased against us. As far as I can remember Hook hasn't refereed any of our games so far this season ever since Gazza signed last summer. We have even had Waa refereeing us this season in the Junior Cup, and him manager of our biggest rivals. We had no problem with that either. If the ref sees you raise your hands at all, then you risk getting sent off. |
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Post by stevie1 on Apr 30, 2009 16:09:58 GMT
Barstool - now I remember. I forgot you play for Glencloy. Just assumed it was All Saints as we played them 3 times in the last month.
You are right about the headbutt. Can't defend that, but you seem to forget some of the conduct of your own players before and after that. Anyhow, the ref didn't see it but our manager did and subbed the player immidiately. He was also warned about his conduct.
Refs are given such a hard time when it's a thankless job. This is BSML and the ref standards are never going to be top class. Look at the decisions from Premier League refs (Howard Webb and dodgy pens at Old Trafford). Mind you, one thing that annoys me is the cost of refs now.
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Post by spectator on May 29, 2009 11:01:04 GMT
Can anyone confirm where the final tonight is being played
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Post by thorny on May 29, 2009 11:45:01 GMT
penerol, 7pm
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