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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2012 9:43:19 GMT
Rules may be outdated and need looked at but to be caught 2 years in row for eligibility issues smacks of stupidity to me
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Post by Ronaldo 7 - Harryville Homers on Apr 19, 2012 11:21:35 GMT
this has all escalated from saturdays match and what happened after, nothing else.
after 60 odd games in the league and finally getting beat has taken its toll.
dob hasnt thought about the homers players, carniny players or the rest of the people in the bsml here, quite simply thought about himself in this decision.
and its not an honest mistake, there was a player who played for carniny as well when he shoudnt have this year in the junior cup....this is absolute balls
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Post by Dowie-RAFC on Apr 19, 2012 11:59:17 GMT
Wat we do has nothing to do with the homers or anybody else. We care about carniny and us only. We done the right thing.
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Post by kpd on Apr 19, 2012 12:07:47 GMT
Am in shock at this, everyone i have spoken to regarding this final was going and looking forward to it, great advert for league. All i can say is fair f!!king play to the carniny manager, what a call to make having worked there nuts of to get to the final and the club as a whole. Tell ya what lads if game is off when the sick feeling is gone hold your heads high, stupid rule but a rule all the same. Just hope there is some way the game can go ahead for the 2 clubs and league also.  |
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Post by BFP on Apr 19, 2012 12:08:15 GMT
this has all escalated from saturdays match and what happened after, nothing else. after 60 odd games in the league and finally getting beat has taken its toll. dob hasnt thought about the homers players, carniny players or the rest of the people in the bsml here, quite simply thought about himself in this decision. and its not an honest mistake, there was a player who played for carniny as well when he shoudnt have this year in the junior cup....this is absolute balls Ronney I don't think anyone from homers is in a position to throw stones!! You have to give dobie credit where credit is due, he done the honourable thing, trust me there is no one in Ballymena that wants to win a junior competition more than him, so this decision was not taken lightly and I would imagine he is hurting more than any Carniny or Homers player. |
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Post by Ronaldo 7 - Harryville Homers on Apr 19, 2012 12:10:58 GMT
this has all escalated from saturdays match and what happened after, nothing else. after 60 odd games in the league and finally getting beat has taken its toll. dob hasnt thought about the homers players, carniny players or the rest of the people in the bsml here, quite simply thought about himself in this decision. and its not an honest mistake, there was a player who played for carniny as well when he shoudnt have this year in the junior cup....this is absolute balls Ronney I don't think anyone from homers is in a position to throw stones!! You have to give dobie credit where credit is due, he done the honourable thing, trust me there is no one in Ballymena that wants to win a junior competition more than him, so this decision was not taken lightly and I would imagine he is hurting more than any Carniny or Homers player. this is rubbish lol he played a player in the junior cup, known he was ineligible. but yet now they want to withdraw because they want to win it fairly??? its all escalated from saturday and nothing else! |
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Post by tallboy on Apr 19, 2012 12:15:54 GMT
Ronnie,
You think that this is only happening because you beat Carniny on Saturday....or did something else happen??
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Post by Ronaldo 7 - Harryville Homers on Apr 19, 2012 12:16:31 GMT
Ronnie, You think that this is only happening because you beat Carniny on Saturday....or did something else happen?? BOTH! |
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Post by BFP on Apr 19, 2012 12:20:13 GMT
Ronny, you's done the same thing playing ineligible players, surely you's should be pulling out aswell? Or am I way off the mark here? And you's didn't play ineligible players? If so then I apologise and say fair play to you's for winning it, superb achievement.
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Post by maccers1 on Apr 19, 2012 12:20:47 GMT
I honestly cant see how anyone can criticise carniny here. They broke the rules & owned up to it. They should be held up as an example of great sporting integrity not villified. Seems a bit daft on their part that it got this far but mistakes do happen. I can't believe Carniny would be afraid to play anyone. You don't win 5/6 or whatever it is in a row by being afraid to play. In my opinion it's a great example of Fair Play from Carniny & if there were more like them then the league would be stronger for it.
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Post by tallboy on Apr 19, 2012 12:22:11 GMT
Ronnie, You think that this is only happening because you beat Carniny on Saturday....or did something else happen?? BOTH! What else happened then ?? |
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Post by Ronaldo 7 - Harryville Homers on Apr 19, 2012 12:23:55 GMT
Ronny, you's done the same thing playing ineligible players, surely you's should be pulling out aswell? Or am I way off the mark here? And you's didn't play ineligible players? If so then I apologise and say fair play to you's for winning it, superb achievement. we have won nothing, that is the whole point i am trying to make here...and as far as the shield goes, we prob wont win it now either. |
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Post by Ronaldo 7 - Harryville Homers on Apr 19, 2012 12:26:10 GMT
doby knew if the homers beat carniny in that final it would have been talked about for the next 50 years.
and im pretty sure people commenting on this, dont know what happened after on saturday...and if they did wouldnt be writing nthing about carniny being sporting or fair play.
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Post by Dowie-RAFC on Apr 19, 2012 12:35:43 GMT
Ronny. We never cheated in the cup. No matter wat round this tie would of been the same thing would of happened!!
Yous are wide of the mark ronny.
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Post by Ronaldo 7 - Harryville Homers on Apr 19, 2012 12:38:06 GMT
Ronny. We never cheated in the cup. No matter wat round this tie would of been the same thing would of happened!! Yous are wide of the mark ronny. naw we all know the score at the homers, and anyone at that match on saturday after does as well. |
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Post by Ronaldo 7 - Harryville Homers on Apr 19, 2012 12:49:08 GMT
and if a team pulls out because of wanting to win it fairly, then hats off to them i really do mean that
...but this is not the reason why carniny have pulled out of the shield, even how much they want to say it on this forum or wherever else.
i cannot stress this enough.
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Post by EricTheKing on Apr 19, 2012 12:53:55 GMT
Ronny, you've got to fill us in on what happened then on sat after the game.
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Post by Ronaldo 7 - Harryville Homers on Apr 19, 2012 13:04:46 GMT
cant say "exactly" what actually happened after the match as that is between the people who it involved and if they want to come on and explain to everyone what went on then thats ok...but something did happen, and it would not have happened if carniny had beat the homers, and thats pretty much a fact.
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Post by mich on Apr 19, 2012 13:06:37 GMT
Rules like this stifle junior clubs. As a player you want to be playing against the best players you can possibly play against, so i'm with Lenny and Harty on this. IMO a club should only withdraw or be banned from the competition if they play a suspended player or a player who isn't signed or signed past a certain date, anything else should be fair game. The late great Bill Shankly once said about players, which could also be adopted to mean the rule-makers of the game aswell, "Football is a simple game made complicated by people who should know better".
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Post by wankydoodle on Apr 19, 2012 13:16:32 GMT
ronny its best bein left alone mate cause no matter what can be said or is said on this it cant change anything and will cause more bad blood. from bein there saturday i understand were ur comin from like and find it a weird time to do it now but we just plug on with our season now and not think too much about it  |
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Post by Muffin Man on Apr 19, 2012 13:18:48 GMT
FFS Ronny stop beating round the bush and tell us all what the feck happened on Sat after the match  |
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Post by Ronaldo 7 - Harryville Homers on Apr 19, 2012 13:21:39 GMT
ronny its best bein left alone mate cause no matter what can be said or is said on this it cant change anything and will cause more bad blood. from bein there saturday i understand were ur comin from like and find it a weird time to do it now but we just plug on with our season now and not think too much about it how can u not think about it though, probably be biggest game well ever be involved in, and its just been taken away from us. anyone in our shoes would feel the same, gutted isnt even the word. but everythings been said thats needed said, so well just wait and see what happens now. |
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Post by stumpy on Apr 19, 2012 13:23:24 GMT
doby knew if the homers beat carniny in that final it would have been talked about for the next 50 years. and im pretty sure people commenting on this, dont know what happened after on saturday...and if they did wouldnt be writing nthing about carniny being sporting or fair play. ronny I'm sure that dobie s pride bout getting beat in the final by the homers is def not the reason y he pulled out!!if use beat them fair enough but honestly think tats complete bull s**t bout the 50yrs bit!!its a great achievement from both clubs to b were use are/were.so I'm sure as u av clearly stated its all about the afters on sats match which has flared this up.might as well just tell us all wot happened and b done way all this nancying about :-)get it off ur chest!! |
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Post by hunter on Apr 19, 2012 14:07:05 GMT
is it not true that the homers played a ineligible player against ford and 2 v the sky blues? think ronny is a wee bit hypocritical here pretending the homers are whiter than snow.
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Post by wankydoodle on Apr 19, 2012 14:18:37 GMT
is it not true that the homers played a ineligible player against ford and 2 v the sky blues? think ronny is a wee bit hypocritical here pretending the homers are whiter than snow. since when did he state that he was simply sayin they shouldnt have pulled out as alot are maybe thinkin. no-one would of thought less of them had they played and won |
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Post by topofthetownclown on Apr 19, 2012 14:30:16 GMT
The next harryville derby should be a fiesty affair  And on this whole debatacle honestly don't know what to say but if carniny have pulled out due to the reason giving I applaud it but I'd bet my life on it if u went back over the winners of these junior comps the last 10 years quite a winners would fall foul of this silly rule and maybe not even knowing it. But I fully understand why dobbie down it as he feels the current squad are good enough to win at the very least 1 of these cups and if found guilty the 3 year ban would make it all the harder as players move on, reitre,etc etc |
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Post by Mitty on Apr 19, 2012 15:09:24 GMT
Genuine question out of interest (because wouldnt want people getting the wrong idea again) but can Mo McDowell ever play injunior competitions again or does he only have to wait a couple seasons?
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Post by Ronaldo 7 - Harryville Homers on Apr 19, 2012 15:09:29 GMT
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Post by Mighty Reds on Apr 19, 2012 15:19:38 GMT
Genuine question out of interest (because wouldnt want people getting the wrong idea again) but can Mo McDowell ever play injunior competitions again or does he only have to wait a couple seasons? Was speaking to Mo after our game on Tuesday Night and he was saying he's out of Junior Cup for 3 seasons and Junior Shield for 1 season. |
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Post by jonnymcc on Apr 19, 2012 15:36:53 GMT
Heard Mo was for Ballymena next season again anyway.
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