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Post by demesnerab on Sept 13, 2008 21:03:55 GMT
I have to say that I think we reached a new low. Already, and we're only 3 games into the season. We struggled with basics, foul throws, bad heavy touches. Our passing was poor today, when we tried to clear the ball from defence we kept knocking it no distance and straight back to them. Neither did we pose any real threat up front...lets get it sorted!! Credit to A.A. btw, they showed a lot of commitment and effort today and they have a couple of guys in midfield with the ability to dictate a match. They were also very patient with the referee at times, 2 possible shouts for a pen first half. In the ref's defence, it was a struggle to see any line markings on that pitch. Our goal looked like it might have been a foul on the GK. The smallest man in the team got in there, put himself about and got his just reward. Let's see a similar attitude next week from the rest of us! Rab
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anto
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Post by anto on Sept 17, 2008 21:16:06 GMT
wat you mean might have been a foul on the keeper... i was in he air and i cought it ii had the ball in my hands and then i got wiped out from behind.. i think thats a foul dont you...??!
n that referee was terrible he did nuffin at all. he made some terrible terrible decisions on both teams..
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Post by demesnerab on Sept 17, 2008 21:46:59 GMT
I'm not going to start slagging refs off, because I am one myself, but yes, I would definitely have given the foul.
It's not an easy job though refereeing. I hope someone from your club decides to at least give the beginner's refereeing course a go. Nothing worse than turning up for a match and having to go home because the ref doesn't turn up...
Is all your team from Antrim?
R
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Post by pass on Sept 18, 2008 17:57:37 GMT
most of the team are based here in antrim but a few from randalsstreet. your right about the refereeing i dont know how anyone does it. i wouldnt do it for 100quid a game!!
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Post by demesnerab on Sept 18, 2008 22:24:12 GMT
I think it would help if more players and managers understood some of the more common laws.
The best example I've noticed recently is defenders and goalkeepers who don't seem to know that if the ball slices off the outside of their foot when they attempt to clear the ball and the ball runs through to the goalkeeper, then that is technically not considered a 'back pass.' Law 12 - Indirect free kick if (the goalkeeper) "touches the ball with his hands after it has been DELIBERATELY kicked to him by a team-mate."
In giving offside the main difficulty is deciding when a player is active or in-active. If a player shoots and another player on his own team is standing in an offside position, then that player only becomes active if the shot fails to go in, and rebounds out to them. I remember one game where a manager was unhappy about a goal disallowed for that reason.
Another one from last Saturday, was that when a player went down injured, the referee played on. He was right to do so, as play should be allowed to continue until the ball goes out of play, unless the referee considers the injury to be serious e.g. if the player suffers a head injury.
R
(Sorry to go on - good revision for me)
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Post by guesswhoback78!!!! on Sept 19, 2008 8:07:42 GMT
Rab,
Being a ref in any match is a difficult job as your under the spotlight, by everyone playing or non-playing, the Refs should get a bit more respect, it a job which they enjoy doing and made easier when the players and managers listen to what the Ref has to say plus gives the Ref the respect he demands.
Defo everyone should give a wee bit more time to the ref to listen and understand why they give that deicison. Sometimes yes the Ref gets it wrong but learn to deal with that, get on with the game.
Your team can only get better Rab, just do the simple things in training, short passes, quick passes, fitness. Mate comes with time and effort from everyone, so keep your head up. It will be grand.
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Post by mich on Sept 20, 2008 14:37:30 GMT
Being a ref in any match is a difficult job as your under the spotlight, by everyone playing or non-playing. That's the thing, if the ref makes a mistake he's gonna be lambasted by both sides. Yet if a player makes an error, like making a stupid two-footed tackle, nothing is said of it maybe even his own team saying 'hard luck' or 'we're being cheated here'. I doubt that the refs are out to cheat a team out of the game. Say for arguments sake that they were, what would be the point in wanting to get up on a saturday morning to receive verbal abuse week-in week-out?!? I reckon alot of them do it simply for the money because how could anyone go out and enjoy that?!? If I was a ref, i'd want to make new friends and maybe watch a few talented players play every week. But I've seen men squealing like school girls at decisions given against them. These are usually just s**te players and want to blame anyone, their teammates included, but themselves. We also seem to have more respect when there is no ref and it's somebody from the sideline who has to take over, as we expect poor decisions, but the BSML refs aren't gonna be brilliant either. Especially as they've no linesmen to assist them. Just a bunch of 'animals' shouting and roaring at once when he blows his whistle one way or the other. Being a ref, i'd say, is quite a lonely place because not only during matchdays are you by yourself, but training aswell, so you don't get to have banter which we benefit from with the lads or someone to drive and spur you on. Though, what i'd like refs to do is to support both teams instead of remaining impartial, as i think they do at the moment, for example they could compliment players on a good tackle/save/goal and should do so without fear of the other team crying at him, so long as it works both ways though. *.....and breathes*
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Post by demesnerab on Sept 20, 2008 19:17:28 GMT
Sympathy for referees...next somebody will be on saying that a tracksuit and tie combo is the height of fashion!
In response to GWB78, if training was made any simpler, we could sign a barbary ape and play it in a holding role in midfield. Most weeks it is no more than a modified 'mini-soccer' routine... but the bad news for the players is that the running element will be getting harder over the next few weeks.
Thanks for the encouragement lads.
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