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Post by Pugford on Nov 11, 2008 8:28:15 GMT
Anyone got a solution to this one? Keep pulling my calf muscles. If its not one its the other. Cant seem to stop doing it. Been a while now from last time I did one, now when I say a while I mean i've had a good 6 weeks of training since I last did it. Must be going on 4 times this season  I know the old routene of warming up, and I do it every time. Something not right there. Frustrated to the max. Was wondering if anyone else has had same problems and if so what is best way to deal with it... |
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Post by G*A*W*A on Nov 11, 2008 12:03:31 GMT
I'd say just let them heal properly and not rush back too soon (not that you're quick anyway ;D). Better to take 4 weeks to let something heal correctly than come back after 2 and it goes again after half an hour.
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Post by LENNY on Nov 11, 2008 12:17:08 GMT
Anyone got a solution to this one? Keep pulling my calf muscles. If its not one its the other. Cant seem to stop doing it. Been a while now from last time I did one, now when I say a while I mean i've had a good 6 weeks of training since I last did it. Must be going on 4 times this season I know the old routene of warming up, and I do it every time. Something not right there. Frustrated to the max. Was wondering if anyone else has had same problems and if so what is best way to deal with it... When u do ur calf whats ur process after? physio?? |
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Post by Donko on Nov 11, 2008 12:29:25 GMT
Puggy, you might fine that the problem could be to do with your footwear, you might not be getting enough grip and your straining your calves when trying to compensate.
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Post by ritchaldo on Nov 11, 2008 12:36:04 GMT
retire...  |
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Post by guesswhoback78!!!! on Nov 11, 2008 12:41:23 GMT
Pugsta just take your time coming back into the fold, plenty of swimming after a light session in the Gym. But again you have done this over the last few months, so that you out again for another month  |
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Post by Pugford on Nov 11, 2008 12:51:19 GMT
Anyone got a solution to this one? Keep pulling my calf muscles. If its not one its the other. Cant seem to stop doing it. Been a while now from last time I did one, now when I say a while I mean i've had a good 6 weeks of training since I last did it. Must be going on 4 times this season I know the old routene of warming up, and I do it every time. Something not right there. Frustrated to the max. Was wondering if anyone else has had same problems and if so what is best way to deal with it... When u do ur calf whats ur process after? physio?? I've tried the physio route Lenny, but now that I know the process to recover I usually just give it a few days to start healing and settle down, and then gently stretch it few times a day for next couple weeks, then start doing light training and build up from there. Feel like packing it in this season completely. Season only going 4 months and this is easy the 3rd 4th time I have had a strain. Maybe i'm not giving it long enough, but its hard not to come back too early. Esp when your feeling confident that your ok  |
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Post by Pugford on Nov 11, 2008 12:54:30 GMT
Puggy, you might fine that the problem could be to do with your footwear, you might not be getting enough grip and your straining your calves when trying to compensate. That could be a very good reason paul. Been using these air max footy trainers though at the minute. Youd expect them to do the job? When stretching I cant feel the pain of where it hurts. Seems to be in an awkward spot, so you could be right.. |
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Post by LENNY on Nov 11, 2008 13:12:10 GMT
When u do ur calf whats ur process after? physio?? I've tried the physio route Lenny, but now that I know the process to recover I usually just give it a few days to start healing and settle down, and then gently stretch it few times a day for next couple weeks, then start doing light training and build up from there. Feel like packing it in this season completely. Season only going 4 months and this is easy the 3rd 4th time I have had a strain. Maybe i'm not giving it long enough, but its hard not to come back too early. Esp when your feeling confident that your ok f**k it sounded like it was the scar tissue ye were tearing.. ye need to be icing it, stretching it and getting deep friction on it.. |
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Post by Pugford on Nov 11, 2008 13:21:19 GMT
Deep friction is deadly!!  Yeah I had the ice pack on last night. Will keep at that for next day or so, then keep stretchin it. Cant understand why I keep doing these though. If its not one its the other! Trained with Abbeyview there a few times over past weeks and on one night the training was tougher than I have ever did at any football team. No reaction from either calf that night. Yet playing fukin 5 a side last night after 20 mins it goes. Freakin me out like. That will be me for another 4 - 6 weeks before i'm back again. Its hard to know what causes it, but there has to be something I can change to help stop it... |
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Post by Jeff on Nov 11, 2008 13:44:18 GMT
Astroturf wont help it mate nor will indoor. Our coach at Abbeyview (Gee Mitchell) always stresses the importance of a good warm down after training/match. This could help?
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Post by Pugford on Nov 11, 2008 14:30:57 GMT
Possibly mate. I am prepared to try anything. Gutted is an understatement. Fitness was well on the up. Past 3 season now
I have played bit parts in because of injury. Looks like this one will be no different.
Defo in no rush back this time round.
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Post by hattori henzo on Nov 11, 2008 14:45:30 GMT
It could be a combination of things, Pugs. First: It sounds like you need to warm-up properly. Not just a wee 5 mins jogging and stretching, a good 15 mins minimum gradually raising the heart rate. Start easy and end with an easy cool-down. Second: Hard ground, astro-turf, etc. will not help at all. There's no give in the ground, therefore you're body is doing all the work when it comes to changing direction, stopping and such. Third: Your personal fitness. You can't assume you'll come back after injury with the same fitness levels as before. Your injury needs time to heal and you need to have the patience to wait it out. So no point in making an early comeback and thinking you're a whippet. I know folks have already suggested these points, but that's my advice.  Sure, Templepatrick have hardly any games left anyway so what's to miss? ;D |
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Post by Pugford on Nov 11, 2008 14:50:38 GMT
There has been some super advise dished out here, and I appreciate it.
Henzo your right in saying about our games. And as Jeff said somewhere else the winter has worse to come, so hopefully there will be a bit of a break in games so I dont miss too much lol
I think its been a combination of all things you mentioned Henzo. I didnt exactly do a brilliant warm up, but one that usually does the trick.
Hard surface doesnt help. Can def understand that. Think i'll pass on that in future.
Bad place to be just at the minute. Starting in square one all over again.
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Post by Donko on Nov 11, 2008 15:11:15 GMT
Puggy, you might fine that the problem could be to do with your footwear, you might not be getting enough grip and your straining your calves when trying to compensate. That could be a very good reason paul. Been using these air max footy trainers though at the minute. Youd expect them to do the job? When stretching I cant feel the pain of where it hurts. Seems to be in an awkward spot, so you could be right.. It could be something as simple as the trainers being a slight size too big, causing your feet to slip inside them, coupled with the hard surface. You could buy a calf support, or even a trainer lining with raised heels (no, not the cross dressing style), these will cause your calves to not stretch as far when you are running. |
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Post by Pugford on Nov 11, 2008 15:17:38 GMT
Didint know there was such a thing. Nice one, i'll def do that
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Post by Header on Nov 25, 2008 14:59:43 GMT
That could be a very good reason paul. Been using these air max footy trainers though at the minute. Youd expect them to do the job? When stretching I cant feel the pain of where it hurts. Seems to be in an awkward spot, so you could be right.. It could be something as simple as the trainers being a slight size too big, causing your feet to slip inside them, coupled with the hard surface. You could buy a calf support, or even a trainer lining with raised heels (no, not the cross dressing style), these will cause your calves to not stretch as far when you are running. I would say you definitely need a calf support or at least that "tubagrip" that the hospital gives you when you have a strain. Had similar problem with the hammies. Done the left one, kept coming back when it felt ready and then it kept going again. Or if it didn't go the other one did but I was told if you don't let it heal properly in the first place you end up "saving" what was your bad leg and putting more strain on your good leg so that when your bad leg gets better your good leg has become weaker and therefore more prone to injury. Problem was maybe not solved but definitely helped with cycling short type things. Yea you might look like your about to go on "Hole in the Wall" but it certainly gave me more confidence to run like I wanted to rather than half running for fear of pulling a muscle. Tubagrip or something like it for one tightens the leg and makes it feel more protected and if you do the usual oil and deep heat on the calves and then the tubagrip it keeps the muscles warmer for longer and less prone to injury. |
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Post by Pugford on Nov 25, 2008 15:05:38 GMT
Def worth a try. Cheers
Sort of getting to the stage where I am ready to attempt playing. This time though i'm going to resist the temptation.
Give it til after Christmas to see how it goes.
With a bit of luck i'll be able to enjoy the second half of the season without any more. If not then the boots are goin in the bin
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