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Post by Mitty on Aug 30, 2011 22:00:19 GMT
Haha sorry if i offended.. :-) Never heard of the wee left back , is he an international ? the german is useless Aye he played in the last Copa America there. Typical Brazilian full back, just keeps bombing forward. The big German is exactly what they need, jsut a big lad who will head and kick things! |
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Post by Mitty on Aug 31, 2011 23:03:10 GMT
2 good signings for the Gunners today. I reckon there will be a big one tomorrow for them too..... Good work from Wenger in the transfer market today. |
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Post by Dowie-RAFC on Sept 1, 2011 8:24:25 GMT
Still will finish outside the top 4 IMO.
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Post by mrfish on Sept 1, 2011 8:40:45 GMT
2 good signings for the Gunners today. I reckon there will be a big one tomorrow for them too..... Good work from Wenger in the transfer market today. Stop agreeing with Mitty!! ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by Potter on Sept 1, 2011 21:42:56 GMT
Arsenal for the league now haha.. am happy with our business in the transfer window, but cant see us finishing any higher than 4th  |
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Post by Jacky-Wilshere10 on Sept 2, 2011 22:22:07 GMT
Only 3 games I'n and use boys r able to tell me we won't finish I'n the too 4.
That is completely reeli lol. Alot of football to be played boys.
As for the 8-2 game. Try being I'n the away end watching it. LOL
But one thing to be took away from the match. HOME FANS R TERRIBLE lol
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Post by Potter on Sept 3, 2011 17:14:55 GMT
4th spot.. Try to win FA Cup an Carling Cup ill be happy with that.. just see UTD Chelsea City all too strong for us..
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Post by Cmac on Sept 3, 2011 22:20:57 GMT
The groundskeepers at Arsenal are planting potatoes this week, so they will have something to lift at the end of the season.
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Post by Potter on Sept 4, 2011 18:30:45 GMT
The groundskeepers at Arsenal are planting potatoes this week, so they will have something to lift at the end of the season. something to look forward too i suppose.. |
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Post by junior on Nov 29, 2011 21:53:30 GMT
No van Persie no threat up front...in saying that again arsenal have some cracking young players coming through. We desperately need another striker, apparaently Henry training with arsenal...id sign him tae f**k he'd still be twice the player chamack is!
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Post by bap on Nov 29, 2011 22:03:31 GMT
No van Persie no threat up front...in saying that again arsenal have some cracking young players coming through. We desperately need another striker, apparaently Henry training with arsenal...id sign him tae f**k he'd still be twice the player chamack is! Are these better than the great 'kids' Arsenal had in 2005 & 2006 & 2007 & 2008 & 2009 & funnily enough in 2010? Wonder when the 2005 batch will be ready for the 1st team. I remember being force-fed the mantra they were gonna dominate British football for years. If the London media had their way every year they'd put a wee * in the Football Yearbooks beside Utd or Chelsea's name as Champions with an explanation below '* - Arsenal's kids played some lovely football' Sorry for venting... |
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Post by junior on Nov 30, 2011 10:12:52 GMT
Very true bap and I feel your pain...but in fairness frimpong and coquelan look smashing players...would you not agree that it is better constantly bringing these young lads through if we continue to compete as go out and spend 20 million on say Henderson?...I still believe that arsenes way will pay of someday. Chamberlain looks twice the player walcott is already.
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Post by pele on Nov 30, 2011 12:51:45 GMT
Love the way Frimpong plays, gonna have a big future with the Gunners.
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Post by junior on Nov 30, 2011 13:12:40 GMT
Love the way Frimpong plays, gonna have a big future with the Gunners. So do aye pele...he got rattled into nasri last night and he didn't want to know. Be interesting to see what he's going to do when wilshire comes back who will be dropped arteta or ramsey. |
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Post by square on Nov 30, 2011 13:54:43 GMT
wengers record of bringing in young players is second to none, when you actually sit back and add them all up its absolutely crazy how many players arrive at arsenal as relative unknowns and end up becomming household names. bought anelka for 500k, sold for 23 mil, van persie for 2.5 mil, fabregas 500k, vieira 3.5mil, etc etc etc etc
unfortunately alot of them think they better off elsewhere and decide to move on, but you could count on one hand the number of players who have left early and went on to great things.
i honestly believe that if it werent for chelsea and man city's millions that arsenal would have won a hell of alot more than they have done recently. lets hope these financial fair play rules are enforced correctly!!!
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Post by bap on Nov 30, 2011 15:09:01 GMT
wengers record of bringing in young players is second to none, when you actually sit back and add them all up its absolutely crazy how many players arrive at arsenal as relative unknowns and end up becomming household names. bought anelka for 500k, sold for 23 mil, van persie for 2.5 mil, fabregas 500k, vieira 3.5mil, etc etc etc etc unfortunately alot of them think they better off elsewhere and decide to move on, but you could count on one hand the number of players who have left early and went on to great things. i honestly believe that if it werent for chelsea and man city's millions that arsenal would have won a hell of alot more than they have done recently. lets hope these financial fair play rules are enforced correctly!!! Just to clarify from earlier Junior, I am not an Arsenal fan. And this post highlights the other thing that really grates me about Arsenal and super Arsene and his 'kids'. You say he picks up these young players as unknowns - if this was the case should Arsenal not have a relatively low wage bill? How come the Arsenal wage bill has consistently been almost that of the Champions and Chelsea and whoever else makes up the big 4 at the time during the Premier years? Could it be possibly that when Arsenal are 'unearthing these rough diamonds' they are simply watching Barca and Madrid etc youth teams then offering their better players £40k or £50k per week? Must be some reason how Arsenal with their reputed wage ceiling of £80k or so, which has only been broken for Henry, Fabregas and RVP, have such a high wage figure. At the time when Fabregas moved to Barca an article showed Arsenal currently have 5 other players they sniped away from Barcelona showing why they despise the Gunners. For every Vieira there's a Reyes, for every Anelka there's 15 Christopher Wreh's, for every Fabregas there's a Stepanovs. |
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Post by square on Nov 30, 2011 17:50:15 GMT
Are you telling me there is a better club at nurturing young talent?? Arsene's problem with wages is that in my opinion he plays average players higher than average wages. This is why its more difficult for us to sell the likes of eboue, vela, bendtner etc. I'll hold my hands up and admit he doesn't get it right all the time, no one does. But he gets it right more often that most other managers.
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Post by bap on Nov 30, 2011 19:12:52 GMT
Are you telling me there is a better club at nurturing young talent?? Arsene's problem with wages is that in my opinion he plays average players higher than average wages. This is why its more difficult for us to sell the likes of eboue, vela, bendtner etc. I'll hold my hands up and admit he doesn't get it right all the time, no one does. But he gets it right more often that most other managers. Did you read what I posted? Peole like Eboue, Vela, Bendtner all end up at Arsenal because he offers the big cash to the 16 & 17 yo's with potential. Some turn into Fabregas, most dont. He gets it right more than most because he spends 80 or 90% of his budget on these players - we don't hear so much about the Lupoli's and the Merida's who are shipped out each year. |
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Post by junior on Dec 1, 2011 10:28:37 GMT
Not many verons, lauren blancs, barthez, djemba djembas, klebersons etc etc bap...think wenger is the best when it comes to competing spending very little, sometimes to little imo but you can't argue with a man who got 22 million for anelka, 40 for fabregas, 16 for Henry at 30, 20 million each for overmars and petit, 18 for vieria at 30 etc...all players that he spent very little on. Can't really see your point bap tbh.
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Post by bremner on Dec 1, 2011 11:07:47 GMT
Not many verons, lauren blancs, barthez, djemba djembas, klebersons etc etc bap...think wenger is the best when it comes to competing spending very little, sometimes to little imo but you can't argue with a man who got 22 million for anelka, 40 for fabregas, 16 for Henry at 30, 20 million each for overmars and petit, 18 for vieria at 30 etc...all players that he spent very little on. Can't really see your point bap tbh. Just to correct you Junior...Henry was bought for £11M...Overmars £5.5M....Petit £2.5M...Vieira..£3.5M. Petit was sold for £7M. Walcott was bought for £9M....as a teenager. Just thought I would add some facts..... ;D ;D |
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Post by junior on Dec 1, 2011 11:38:25 GMT
Not many verons, lauren blancs, barthez, djemba djembas, klebersons etc etc bap...think wenger is the best when it comes to competing spending very little, sometimes to little imo but you can't argue with a man who got 22 million for anelka, 40 for fabregas, 16 for Henry at 30, 20 million each for overmars and petit, 18 for vieria at 30 etc...all players that he spent very little on. Can't really see your point bap tbh. Just to correct you Junior...Henry was bought for £11M...Overmars £5.5M....Petit £2.5M...Vieira..£3.5M. Petit was sold for £7M. Walcott was bought for £9M....as a teenager. Just thought I would add some facts..... ;D ;D Did I say anyhing wrong then apart from what petit was sold for? |
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Post by pele on Dec 1, 2011 13:00:58 GMT
I have't really read the thread but is someone trying to say Wenger is a bad manager?
Amazing manager imo.
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Post by junior on Dec 1, 2011 13:08:59 GMT
Read it Ye lazy fecker! ;D
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Post by Donko on Dec 1, 2011 13:36:39 GMT
It's alright saying they are a great club at nurturing young talent, but they have won f**k all for 6 years. In the history books i don't see any awards for talent.
There's a guy who has consistently brought through youth talent, and won medals with them, Sir Alex (although last night makes me think that's come to a halt)
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Post by junior on Dec 1, 2011 13:44:21 GMT
It's alright saying they are a great club at nurturing young talent, but they have won f**k all for 6 years. In the history books i don't see any awards for talent. There's a guy who has consistently brought through youth talent, and won medals with them, Sir Alex (although last night makes me think that's come to a halt) True donko...wev won f**k all but we built a new stadium paid it of and continued to compete in the top four. |
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Post by mrfish on Dec 1, 2011 13:52:03 GMT
It's alright saying they are a great club at nurturing young talent, but they have won f**k all for 6 years. In the history books i don't see any awards for talent. There's a guy who has consistently brought through youth talent, and won medals with them, Sir Alex (although last night makes me think that's come to a halt) True donko...wev won f**k all but we built a new stadium paid it of and continued to compete in the top four. No awards in the history books for nice undersoil heating, comfy seats and pricey grub either, whether yese paid for it or not!!  |
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Post by square on Dec 1, 2011 14:05:03 GMT
as an arsenal fan i feel wengers attempt of building a team solely of young talent has backfired, i would have preferred more of a blend between youth and experience. This is where i think ferguson has got it right in the past, the team with scholes, beckham etc had stam, keane, sheringham all providing that experience. even now when you look at smalling, jones, cleverly wellbeck he still has vidic, ferdinand and giggs.
when arsenal last won the league basically every player was at the height of their career, and instead of slowely bringing in new players we went through a complete overhaul where every invincible player left in the space of about 2 seasons with the expection of toure who hung around a wee while longer.
but ferguson isnt shy on spending the money and he's got it wrong alot too. When you think hes spent big money on the likes of veron, berbatov, rooney, ferdinand, hargreaves, carrick, nani, anderson, etc etc most of who are twice the price of wengers most expensive signings of wiltord, reyes and arahavin (who were all average at best for us) then i think its fair to say that arsenal have done well keeping pace with the top 4 considering the gulf in spending.
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Post by bap on Dec 1, 2011 15:46:15 GMT
Not many verons, lauren blancs, barthez, djemba djembas, klebersons etc etc bap...think wenger is the best when it comes to competing spending very little, sometimes to little imo but you can't argue with a man who got 22 million for anelka, 40 for fabregas, 16 for Henry at 30, 20 million each for overmars and petit, 18 for vieria at 30 etc...all players that he spent very little on. Can't really see your point bap tbh. Are Arsenal competing for anything?? This past 5 years? Last trophy he won he parked the bus against the Champions and played for penalties. I think Wenger is a very good manager, just dont like this name he has of being a tactical master. Considering there is no Plan B at Arsenal thats a ridiculous tag. Yeah he's had success buying players for little and selling for big money. I'm sure Fergies record would have compared if he'd sold Keane or Schmeichel or Giggs or Scholes etc but they all wanted to stay for some reason. Maybe it was the trophies they liked... |
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Post by QUIGS on Dec 1, 2011 16:43:36 GMT
I'll add my tuppence for what its worth  Man ure at the last count have approx 56 or so ex players plying their trade in the game at differing levels at present,which is a testimony to their scouting and academy system. I feel at times we run one club down at the same time we big up another....there's no doubting that both Arse n Man ure are great at producing ballers ,no matter what level they finally attain. Wenger n Fergie are still cnuts thou |
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Post by junior on Dec 1, 2011 18:13:04 GMT
I'll add my tuppence for what its worth Man ure at the last count have approx 56 or so ex players plying their trade in the game at differing levels at present,which is a testimony to their scouting and academy system. I feel at times we run one club down at the same time we big up another....there's no doubting that both Arse n Man ure are great at producing ballers ,no matter what level they finally attain. Wenger n Fergie are still cnuts thou Classic quigs post...have you turned American since ye last posted? What the f**ks a baller? |
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