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Post by bap on May 15, 2012 23:50:03 GMT
Who's everyone fancy? Should maybe be on Gambling Section but I see BetVictor offering money back if Spain win the tournament. Dont know the draw but a bet on Germany/Holland or both maybe worthwhile with the prospect of cashback if the Spanish win it again. By the way, if Hooper gets called up to the England squad will all you Celtic supporters be cheering on England?  |
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Post by Donko on May 16, 2012 6:36:33 GMT
I fancy Germany, with a sneaking suspicion France will go far
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Post by pele on May 16, 2012 7:07:14 GMT
Hooper is brilliant and i think he will do well in England but i cannot see him being included, they will go with the tried and tested. Crouch, Defoe etc.
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Post by quasimodo on May 16, 2012 9:24:10 GMT
I think Russia will be the team that will get far outside of the main fav's everyone is chatting about.Honestly cant see past Spain but if i were to pick some1 to de throne them its would be ze Germans
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Post by maccers1 on May 16, 2012 9:38:41 GMT
Hooper is brilliant and i think he will do well in England but i cannot see him being included, they will go with the tried and failed. Crouch, Defoe etc. Fixed that for you. |
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Post by pele on May 16, 2012 9:52:42 GMT
Hooper is brilliant and i think he will do well in England but i cannot see him being included, they will go with the tried and failed. Crouch, Defoe etc. Fixed that for you. Have't checked but i think Crouch has a good record for England? |
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Post by maccers1 on May 16, 2012 9:53:44 GMT
Have't checked but i think Crouch has a good record for England? Has he? How many trophies has he won? |
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Post by quasimodo on May 16, 2012 9:54:13 GMT
Does anyone have any young talent they think will light up the Euros and come from a smallish club and have the big boys City Real etc wanting to splash big cash???.Already fancy young Dzagoev from Russia to do really well and get tongues wagging
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Post by pele on May 16, 2012 10:07:25 GMT
Have't checked but i think Crouch has a good record for England? Has he? How many trophies has he won? As in Goalscoring record, where did i mention trophy's? |
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Post by harty on May 16, 2012 10:16:53 GMT
Has he? How many trophies has he won? As in Goalscoring record, where did i mention trophy's? Roy Hodsgon has announced his squad for the Euro's 1 Gordon Banks 2 George Cohen 3 Ray Wilson 4 Nobby Stiles 5 Jack Charlton 6 Bobby Moore (captain) (1941-04-12) 7 Alan Ball 8 Jimmy Greaves 9 Bobby Charlton 10 Geoff Hurst 11 John Connelly 12 Ron Springett 13 Peter Bonetti 14 Jimmy Armfield 15 Gerry Byrne 16 Martin Peters 17 Ron Flowers 18 Norman Hunter 19 Terry Paine 20 Ian Callaghan 21 Roger Hunt 22 George Eastham Says he only wants players who won trophies playing for their country at this tournament. |
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Post by maccers1 on May 16, 2012 10:21:13 GMT
Has he? How many trophies has he won? As in Goalscoring record, where did i mention trophy's? You never. I'm merely pointing out that Crouch, Defoe, Bent & many, many more haven't worked & therefore failed. Truth be told no matter what 11 they come up with it won't be good enough. English/British football needs ripped out at grassroots level & a complete overhaul done to give future generations a chance. The media are as much to blame as anyone for this, they need to realise their limitations. For such a small country they do quite well but the media push managers into playing a fantasy style when it's not playing to their strengths. The European sides are light years ahead in terms of technical ability & if England played the sort of physical, in your face style of say Chelsea that is more suited to their players results would be better. |
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Post by ritchaldo on May 16, 2012 10:51:03 GMT
Good Post Maccers1, I agree about if they played similar to Chelsea would help them.
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Post by pele on May 16, 2012 10:56:22 GMT
Maccers i think your point in general is wrong. So if a player has't won anything for his country he is a failure?
Been some amazing footballers who have never won anything at International level.
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Post by flymo on May 16, 2012 11:00:18 GMT
As in Goalscoring record, where did i mention trophy's? You never. I'm merely pointing out that Crouch, Defoe, Bent & many, many more haven't worked & therefore failed. Truth be told no matter what 11 they come up with it won't be good enough. English/British football needs ripped out at grassroots level & a complete overhaul done to give future generations a chance. The media are as much to blame as anyone for this, they need to realise their limitations. For such a small country they do quite well but the media push managers into playing a fantasy style when it's not playing to their strengths. The European sides are light years ahead in terms of technical ability & if England played the sort of physical, in your face style of say Chelsea that is more suited to their players results would be better. on the point of grass roots football,, ive been saying for ages the need to change to summer football,, total farce that we live in such a miserable wet windy area and they have the football season played during the worst months,, hoofing a ball around a mud bath aint doing much for players technique and training etc would be so much better in the summer,, wont please the gaa players but too bad i play football!! |
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Post by bap on May 16, 2012 11:17:35 GMT
As in Goalscoring record, where did i mention trophy's? Roy Hodsgon has announced his squad for the Euro's 1 Gordon Banks 2 George Cohen 3 Ray Wilson 4 Nobby Stiles 5 Jack Charlton 6 Bobby Moore (captain) (1941-04-12) 7 Alan Ball 8 Jimmy Greaves 9 Bobby Charlton 10 Geoff Hurst 11 John Connelly 12 Ron Springett 13 Peter Bonetti 14 Jimmy Armfield 15 Gerry Byrne 16 Martin Peters 17 Ron Flowers 18 Norman Hunter 19 Terry Paine 20 Ian Callaghan 21 Roger Hunt 22 George Eastham Says he only wants players who won trophies playing for their country at this tournament.  The change in rules meant he could pull in players from other parts of the UK. George Best was considered but dismissed on his lack of trophies... |
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Post by bap on May 16, 2012 11:18:49 GMT
Does anyone have any young talent they think will light up the Euros and come from a smallish club and have the big boys City Real etc wanting to splash big cash???.Already fancy young Dzagoev from Russia to do really well and get tongues wagging Getting on a bit now but if yer man Gerrard has a good tournament he could maybe finally earn that move to a big club. |
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Post by maccers1 on May 16, 2012 11:19:54 GMT
Maccers i think your point in general is wrong. So if a player has't won anything for his country he is a failure? Been some amazing footballers who have never won anything at International level. Not necessarily but there are people who would say that. Imo Messi is the greatest player of all time. I've saw video of all the greats & imo he's ahead of them. So many of the greats from older generations looked fitter, stronger than their opponents. Nowadays footballers have never been fitter & messi makes them look silly. Generally the argument i'm met with is he hasn't won a world cup so pele & maradona are better. Truth be told i was winding you up with the "what's he won" comment. Your right, Crouch does have a good record at International level. Somewhere close to 1 in 2 i think. I'd take crouch ahead of carroll but wouldn't have defoe anywhere near the squad. Overall the main point is England won't do much at the Euros as they are not good enough. You look at their squad, guys like terry, cole, lampard, gerrard, rooney, parker, barry. Those guys will all run their balls off & nobody at the Euros will work harder than any of them but technically? Nowhere near good enough. Those guys are all good at what they do but international football these days is more & more about retaining possession & those players are all about power, strength etc yet they'll be forced to try to play like barcelona. Only chance they have is the appointment of Hodgeson as coach which IMO was a great choice. At Fulham & WBA he took a limited team to their peak & if he takes that route with England he will do well but I predict the media pressure will have him playing these top teams at their own game & an early exit. |
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Post by harty on May 16, 2012 11:48:28 GMT
Maccers i think your point in general is wrong. So if a player has't won anything for his country he is a failure? Been some amazing footballers who have never won anything at International level. Not necessarily but there are people who would say that. Imo Messi is the greatest player of all time. I've saw video of all the greats & imo he's ahead of them. So many of the greats from older generations looked fitter, stronger than their opponents. Nowadays footballers have never been fitter & messi makes them look silly. Generally the argument i'm met with is he hasn't won a world cup so pele & maradona are better. Truth be told i was winding you up with the "what's he won" comment. Your right, Crouch does have a good record at International level. Somewhere close to 1 in 2 i think. I'd take crouch ahead of carroll but wouldn't have defoe anywhere near the squad. Overall the main point is England won't do much at the Euros as they are not good enough. You look at their squad, guys like terry, cole, lampard, gerrard, rooney, parker, barry. Those guys will all run their balls off & nobody at the Euros will work harder than any of them but technically? Nowhere near good enough. Those guys are all good at what they do but international football these days is more & more about retaining possession & those players are all about power, strength etc yet they'll be forced to try to play like barcelona. Only chance they have is the appointment of Hodgeson as coach which IMO was a great choice. At Fulham & WBA he took a limited team to their peak & if he takes that route with England he will do well but I predict the media pressure will have him playing these top teams at their own game & an early exit. Are you saying Rooney, Gerrard and Cole aren't technically good players? |
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Post by frog on May 16, 2012 11:53:25 GMT
England will be lucky to make it through their group. They don't have the mentality to win it. The winner will be between Spain, holland and Germany, no one else!
Players that will light up the tourney will be llorente, van persie and robben.
Young players to shine if they get starting will be munain, de Jong and afellay.
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Post by Donko on May 16, 2012 12:24:40 GMT
Gotze from Germany being tipped to shine.Attacking Talent available for Germany is frightening, Gotze, Kroos, Ozil, Muller, Gomez, Podolski....even Klose
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Post by Chicharito 14 on May 16, 2012 12:32:24 GMT
England squad:
Goalkeepers - Joe Hart, Robert Green, John Ruddy.
Defenders - Leighton Baines, Gary Cahill, Ashley Cole, Glen Johnson, Phil Jones, Joleon Lescott, John Terry.
Midfielders - Gareth Barry, Stewart Downing, Steven Gerrard, Frank Lampard, James Milner, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, Scott Parker, Theo Walcott, Ashley Young.
Strikers - Andy Carroll, Jermain Defoe, Wayne Rooney, Danny Welbeck.
Standby - Jack Butland, Phil Jagielka, Jordan Henderson, Adam Johnson, Daniel Sturridge.
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Post by Chicharito 14 on May 16, 2012 12:33:24 GMT
Why does Micah Richards not get in England squads?!
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Post by harty on May 16, 2012 12:42:57 GMT
Why does Micah Richards not get in England squads?! Why does Stewart Downing play professional football? |
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Post by Chicharito 14 on May 16, 2012 12:46:23 GMT
Why does Micah Richards not get in England squads?! Why does Stewart Downing play professional football? Absolute joke that he is in. Adam Johnson should have been included. Also Henderson on standby in front of Carrick is a disgrace. |
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Post by Mitty on May 16, 2012 12:48:35 GMT
England may hope and pray nothing happened to Joe hart. Back up keepers Green and Ruddy. Even better, their keeper on standby is a lad whos been on loan at Cheltenham this season.
f**king brutal.
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Post by harty on May 16, 2012 12:52:49 GMT
Starting 11 first game??
Hart
Johnson Terry Cahill Cole
Parker
Gerrard Lampard
Walcott Young
Carroll
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Post by Chicharito 14 on May 16, 2012 12:57:35 GMT
Hart
Johnson, Cahill, Terry, Cole
Barry Parker
Walcott, Gerrard, Young
Wellbeck.
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Post by frog on May 16, 2012 13:05:45 GMT
Is Rooney injured?
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Post by harty on May 16, 2012 13:09:00 GMT
suspended first two games |
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Post by frog on May 16, 2012 13:16:02 GMT
It came to me after I'd sent the message! Lol. Just reminds me on how big an idiot Rooney is!
Hart
Johnson terry lescott cole
Gerrard Parker lampard
Walcott Defoe young
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The change in rules meant he could pull in players from other parts of the UK. George Best was considered but dismissed on his lack of trophies...
